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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
I took your own advice and stopped calling river bets/raises unless it makes perfect sense to do it. If it's close I fold... doing a lot better.. why didn't you take that advice as well?

You moderators make it all sound so easy. If I had any self control I wouldn't have three kids would I.

Errrrhm... I don't think you need self control for that.. you need $2!

You can have them for $1 if you like.

I'd rather pay $2 to not have them... not yet anyway!


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
I took your own advice and stopped calling river bets/raises unless it makes perfect sense to do it. If it's close I fold... doing a lot better.. why didn't you take that advice as well?

You moderators make it all sound so easy. If I had any self control I wouldn't have three kids would I.

Errrrhm... I don't think you need self control for that.. you need $2!

You can have them for $1 if you like.

I'd rather pay $2 to not have them... not yet anyway!

OK. Just send it to me on stars. Anybody else want to ship me some $$$$ not to have my kids?


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nibbana
Joined: 05.12.2009

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
I took your own advice and stopped calling river bets/raises unless it makes perfect sense to do it. If it's close I fold... doing a lot better.. why didn't you take that advice as well?

You moderators make it all sound so easy. If I had any self control I wouldn't have three kids would I.

Errrrhm... I don't think you need self control for that.. you need $2!

You can have them for $1 if you like.

I'd rather pay $2 to not have them... not yet anyway!

OK. Just send it to me on stars. Anybody else want to ship me some $$$$ not to have my kids?

Only if you ship me $1.34 to not have mine. I'm assuming the going rate for not having someone else's children is $0.67/kid? I may have misunderstood, I did just walk in halfway through a quote chain...


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by nibbana

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
I took your own advice and stopped calling river bets/raises unless it makes perfect sense to do it. If it's close I fold... doing a lot better.. why didn't you take that advice as well?

You moderators make it all sound so easy. If I had any self control I wouldn't have three kids would I.

Errrrhm... I don't think you need self control for that.. you need $2!

You can have them for $1 if you like.

I'd rather pay $2 to not have them... not yet anyway!

OK. Just send it to me on stars. Anybody else want to ship me some $$$$ not to have my kids?

Only if you ship me $1.34 to not have mine. I'm assuming the going rate for not having someone else's children is $0.67/kid? I may have misunderstood, I did just walk in halfway through a quote chain...

So more kids = profit? That can't be right.


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nibbana
Joined: 05.12.2009

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by nibbana

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
I took your own advice and stopped calling river bets/raises unless it makes perfect sense to do it. If it's close I fold... doing a lot better.. why didn't you take that advice as well?

You moderators make it all sound so easy. If I had any self control I wouldn't have three kids would I.

Errrrhm... I don't think you need self control for that.. you need $2!

You can have them for $1 if you like.

I'd rather pay $2 to not have them... not yet anyway!

OK. Just send it to me on stars. Anybody else want to ship me some $$$$ not to have my kids?

Only if you ship me $1.34 to not have mine. I'm assuming the going rate for not having someone else's children is $0.67/kid? I may have misunderstood, I did just walk in halfway through a quote chain...

So more kids = profit? That can't be right.

Bigger burden = more to not have them


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Quote chains. :f_mad:

I folded like a pro tonight.

Graph posted to cheer myself up. A few more nights like this and I'll be very happy.


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010

Somehow all my daily zoom graphs look that way at the beginning.

There's a slump, then they go up up and away (but mine tend to drop due to horrible river calls near the end as well, I should start taking your advice too...)


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Here's a novelty. Me folding! Villain is 29/21 over 24 hands. Maybe I should raise/fold or raise/stack off, but that's a big bet into two people, one of whom opened UTG. I thought this at least indicates that I'm playing a bit differently overall now, and the $$$ are starting to come.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $11.33
SB: $46.89
BB: $10.25
Hero (UTG): $10.56
MP: $5.13
CO: $10.80

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♦ K♣

Hero raises to $0.35, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) J♦ T♥ K♦
SB checks, BB bets $0.90, fold, fold

BB wins $1.00


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What do you think about this one, villain is only playing 1 table, I don't have stats

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($28.96)
BB ($10.10)
UTG ($14.09)
UTG+1 ($17.76)
Hero ($12.30)
BTN ($9.60)

Dealt to Hero A♦ A♣

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.80

FLOP ($2.55) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦

UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

TURN ($4.95) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦ 6♥

UTG checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG calls $2.60

RIVER ($10.15) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦ 6♥ K♦

UTG bets $9.09 (AI), Hero folds

UTG wins $9.69


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by goldchess
What do you think about this one, villain is only playing 1 table, I don't have stats

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($28.96)
BB ($10.10)
UTG ($14.09)
UTG+1 ($17.76)
Hero ($12.30)
BTN ($9.60)

Dealt to Hero A♦ A♣

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.80

FLOP ($2.55) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦

UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

TURN ($4.95) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦ 6♥

UTG checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG calls $2.60

RIVER ($10.15) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦ 6♥ K♦

UTG bets $9.09 (AI), Hero folds

UTG wins $9.69

Calling a 3bet OOP with AK and then pissing their pants with excitement on the river is exactly the sort of fishy thing I'd expect from a NL10 unknown. Mind you, 'putting people on AK' is pretty fishy too. I don't think people tend to check/call twice with trips or a FH, and I don't think they call OOP with KK, so I call here. If he shows you KK or 45 (I lost in this sort of situation to someone who called a 3bet OOP with J2o once, so don't tell me 45 isn't in his range) I think it's a cooler.


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009

Originally posted by jbpatzer

I don't think people tend to check/call twice with trips or a FH

Why not? Fish looove to slowplay, esp when there's nothing to be afraid of.
They're gonna stack AA anyways, so slowplaying vs "they always have AK" and now when the perfect river hits - BOOM, DONKSHOVE, everything calls me.

Since complete (prolly fishy) unknown, I still click call factoring in the "random donkmoves" these limits have etc. (I've seen fish play JJ-QQ like this as well - a complete wtf? as if he was slowplaying up until river and when a shitty card hits for him, he has no idea what to do ... and then just ... explodes I guess? :f_biggrin: )

If we give him AK/A3s/33/77/66/half the combos of 54s ...
We get 37,5% equity vs that range ...

We need to be good a bit less than 33% of the time ...

Though we can't expect anything from a complete unknown, so I wouldn't give him all the AK combos ...

So say we take away the suited AK combos ... then we only get 28,6% equity.

So I don't mind either way without knowing anything about our opp ...
I myself am a station and don't give much respect to random fishy lookin microdonks and click call coz of the abovementioned random fishspazz factor etc, fully aware though that I'm not gonna be good most of the time ...

BUT, as jb can tell you his moto/mantra that he's striving towards ...
Folding on the river can never be too bad either there.

It's better to err on the side of weaktight in the micros rather than stationbox ... As everybody else is a stationbox anyways on the times you have the nuts :]

You'll save/win a ton more money overall/"in the long run".

So I like your ability to be folding there :]


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

It's true. I should just be folding there to practice folding.


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010

We lost almost 9% equity from removig two hands?


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I was def not giving him all combos of AK- Even fish realise that 3betting their UTG open and barrelling twice is super strong. They might peel one off on the flop a good %, but often fold turn imo.

I also think we can't totally discount KK from his range


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009

Originally posted by fruktpuff
We lost almost 9% equity from removig two hands?

True story, just 2 hands, but makes his whole range that much more heavily weighted towards the nuts.

Originally posted by goldchess

I also think we can't totally discount KK from his range

True, nothing is ever 100% out of the question, but that happens rly rarely AND I'd expect him to raise with that at some point in the hand ...

So flatting pre+calling down post makes me consider that with a likelyhood of deffo <5%, so I wouldn't give him those KK combos in our equity analysis as it would skew his range/our equity vs it tooo much in villain's favor ...

So even though he might have KK there 1 out of 1000 times, but with such a small chance we should give him like 0.10 combos of KK or smth like that if you know what I mean :f_biggrin:

So it doesn't rly change our equity/pot odds calcs etc ...


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I am a FR nit, but in that spot I would always get there with KK, if I hadn't folded it already


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009

Originally posted by goldchess
I am a FR nit, but in that spot I would always get there with KK, if I hadn't folded it already

FR is a crazy crazy different world that I'll never understand :f_biggrin:


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Hey dude, nice blog... I was kind of curious because of the title ( hehe )... I was laughing about your question which of the kids was most trouble ( since my kid is 16 I dont even have to guess, I am 100percent sure! )

I couldnt agree more about poker and chess comparation, well said...

Anyway good luck to you at the tables, hope your graph is rising ( i saw just few first graphs you posted, didnt go through all the pages )

AC


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trickybob
Joined: 28.07.2010

Originally posted by goldchess
What do you think about this one, villain is only playing 1 table, I don't have stats

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($28.96)
BB ($10.10)
UTG ($14.09)
UTG+1 ($17.76)
Hero ($12.30)
BTN ($9.60)

Dealt to Hero A♦ A♣

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.80

FLOP ($2.55) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦

UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

TURN ($4.95) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦ 6♥

UTG checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG calls $2.60

RIVER ($10.15) 3♣ 3♠ 7♦ 6♥ K♦

UTG bets $9.09 (AI), Hero folds

UTG wins $9.69

Bet bigger on flop and turn.

If I'm playing well, I fold to the shove


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Never mind bloody goldchess, what about my hand?? :f_mad:


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