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sismis
Joined: 27.10.2006

Its true that in last weeks i am involved in to many big pots when i am behind but with combination with some bad luck i start playing even worse. I dont really mind playing bad because at least my good hands are payed by opponents, but without occasional suckouts it will be hard to survive.


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swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

that looks pretty ugly...limits?


sismis
Joined: 27.10.2006

lower and lower :)

was trying to beat NL400 last month, but now i am playing NL100.


expected all-in winning should be those cases, in which you went all in as a favorite right?
If so, rly bad luck...


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

@ tzveti: not sure if I understood correctly, but basically, it traces the graph based on each hands' equity (e.g. 100$ pot, with KK vs AA, you'll have 20$ expected winnings, since you're a 4:1 underdog) and the blue is the real winnings.
^That's simplified btw. it also counts dead money etc...


Yeah, that just what I meant.
So it does rly suck for him - but 800 hands isnt a lot, so I wish him that he has the blue line over the red in the next 800 and voila!


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

Originally posted by tzveti
Yeah, that just what I meant.
So it does rly suck for him - but 800 hands isnt a lot, so I wish him that he has the blue line over the red in the next 800 and voila!

It's 800 all-ins, so it's more like 100k hands total.


zomg!
didnt rly realise he filtered only the all ins...hmm thats bad, rly bad


It is pretty standard actually for this amount of hands , 9 buyins down.
I filtered my stats as well and im up 6 buyins over 1000+ preflop all ins this year.
If we suppose for simplicity ~~ that every all in is worth 200 BB , you just lost 4-5 more all-ins than you should over 800 all-ins.


don't know if this will comfort you or not, actually maybe it won't because it means it can continue

here s the allin luck graph from a french pro:

http://www.clubpoker.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52355&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


sismis
Joined: 27.10.2006

I suck. lost another stack in 7 hands ;/

Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
Gamecode: 932972787 - 2008-04-12 13:37:09
$0.50 SB / $1.50 BB - 5 handed

Seat 1: BB ($189.19)
Seat 3: MP3 ($173.36)
Seat 6: CO ($20) (preflop stats 70/30)
Seat 8: Hero($97.50)(DEALER)
Seat 10: SB ($139.80)

Dealt to CO: :club: 10 :diamond: K
Dealt to Hero: :heart: K :heart: A

Preflop:
SB posts SB, BB posts BB,CO posts BB
MP3 folds, CO raises $1, Hero raises $7, 2 folds, CO calls $5

Flop(Pot: $16.00):
:diamond: 10 :spade: 7 :heart: 6
CO bets $6, Hero raises $13, CO raises All-in($6.50)

Turn(Pot: $41.50):
:diamond: 10 :spade: 7 :heart: 6,:spade: 2

River(Pot: 41.50):
:diamond: 10 :spade: 7 :heart: 6,:spade: 2,:spade: 6

Total Pot: 41.50

Results:
CO wins $38.95
Hero wins $0.50

Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
Gamecode: 932976362 - 2008-04-12 13:39:53
$0.50 SB / $1 BB - 6 handed

Seat 1: MP3 ($181.19)
Seat 3: CO ($171.86)
Seat 5: BU ($98.50)(DEALER)
Seat 6: SB ($46.70)
Seat 8: Hero($79.50)
Seat 10: MP2 ($139.30)

Dealt to SB: :spade: 9 :club: J
Dealt to Hero: :diamond: 2 :club: A

Preflop:
SB posts SB, Hero posts BB
4 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises $4, SB calls $4

Flop(Pot: $10.00):
:diamond: K :diamond: Q :club: 3
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7

Turn(Pot: $24.00):
:diamond: K :diamond: Q :club: 3, :diamond: 9
SB checks, Hero checks

River(Pot: $24.00):
:diamond: K :diamond: Q :club: 3, :diamond: 9, :heart: 6
SB checks, Hero checks

Total Pot: $24.00

Results:
SB wins $22.80

Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
Gamecode: 932978003 - 2008-04-12 13:41:09
$0.50 SB / $1 BB - 6 handed

Seat 1: BB ($185.74)
Seat 3: MP2 ($171.86)
Seat 5: MP3 ($98.50)
Seat 6: CO ($57.50)
Seat 8: Hero($63.50)(DEALER)
Seat 10: SB ($138.30)

Dealt to MP3: :diamond: Q :heart: A
Dealt to Hero: :diamond: 3 :diamond: 6

Preflop:
SB posts SB, BB posts BB
MP2 folds, MP3 raises $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop(Pot: $20.00):
:heart: Q :club: 5 :heart: 3
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 bets $10, CO folds, Hero calls $10, 2 folds

Turn(Pot: $40.00):
:heart: Q :club: 5 :heart: 3, :heart: 6
MP3 checks, Hero bets $25, MP3 raises $50, Hero raises All-in($24.50)

River(Pot: $139.50):
:heart: Q :club: 5 :heart: 3, :heart: 6, :heart: 2

Total Pot: 139.50

Results:
MP3 wins $136.50


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

lols@36s hand O.O?


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

why don't you reload?


sismis
Joined: 27.10.2006

so i can go all-in with 36 without worries :)


sismis
Joined: 27.10.2006

i won allin today after long time. im so happy

Platform: IPoker - formated by LittleTitanHelper
Gamecode: 933844742 - 2008-04-12 23:54:30
$0.50 SB / $1 BB - 5 handed

Seat 1: Hero($105.05)
Seat 3: BB ($127.40)
Seat 5: MP3 ($335.84)
Seat 6: CO ($236.90)
Seat 10: BU ($129.90)(DEALER)

Dealt to Hero: :spade: A :spade: 3
Dealt to BU: :diamond: 6 :diamond: A

Preflop:
Hero posts SB, BB posts BB
2 folds, BU raises $3.50, Hero calls $3, BB folds

Flop(Pot: $8.00):
:club: 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 3
Hero bets $5, BU raises $15, Hero raises $30, BU raises $111.40, Hero raises All-in($66.55)

Turn(Pot: $235.95):
:club: 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 3, :diamond: K

River(Pot: 235.95):
:club: 3 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 3, :diamond: K, :heart: A

Total Pot: 235.95

Results:
Hero wins $208.10
BU wins $24.85


Dodged a bullet on that river though, makes it even sweeter ;)


PalcekSmuk
Joined: 30.03.2007

Sismis you really suck. I think the only card game for you is solitaire.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Originally posted by PalcekSmuk
Sismis you really suck. I think the only card game for you is solitaire.

^^

HU for rollz on MSN solitaire showdown?


sismis
Joined: 27.10.2006

my msn solitaire doesnt run anymore and i cant update messenger without vista :)


matkov
Joined: 15.11.2007

please forgive me to steal this topic from you, but I just don't want to start a new thread :)

Can u guys explain to me what my graphs says?

What does this graph tell you? Is it, that I'm losing too much money bluffing (cbeting) my way before river and general bad postflop play? If I got this right, the showdown winnings and the sklanskly buch says I'm running quite good at showdowns. So the problem is in my postflop play?

Thanks, and sorry for the offtopic