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After playing poker for 4 months on different sites including poker770 I have found out that poker 770 is the only non rigged room among these.Finally the one where I can make it to the final table of the tournament playing right poker and using my brain actually, not like on the others like PARTYPOKER, PKR or POKERSTARS where you can just pull down your pants as you know you are getting screwed.Really the poker770 team is doing the best job in the poker world to ensure the non rigged action.Like you get sucked out here and there but thats poker and I am sure that the card gen is really random.Keep it up guys, great job!:)


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

:f_eek:

i win money @ stars...

Spoiler

the secret is to mail support


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Glad to hear your running well 23devil23!

Keep up the good work!


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Idontknowwhatisvariance.com

Ah... these topic makes my day :f_love:


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Idontknowwhatisvariance.com

Variance is loosing EVERY hand you move in with as a favourite on partypoker, getting rigged with flopped set to runner runner stuff on PKR(really this site is like a slotmachine) and getting set up after making 30-50+ % ROI on pokerstars.Havent seen that kind of variance on poker770 yet, I loose with 80 % hand to win sometimes but always in the reasonable situation.Played on poker770 for 2 months now its definitely best site for you if you are tournament player.But ok believe whatever you want if you make profit on stars or partypoker I dont mind.Poker770 is just best for me.


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Salivanth
Joined: 01.01.2011

When you have a downswing next month, be sure to tell us how Poker770 has given in to the corporate scum and started rigging their tables.

Don't know why I'm bothering but:

Notice, firstly, the profit that shows over an extremely large number of hands. Notice secondly that at the start, he goes on a very long (Seems like 200k+ hand) break-even stretch, and near the end, has a very large downswing. This is Poker. Deal with it. ESPECIALLY on MTT's. Dear god, you have no idea how bad the variance is on MTT's.


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batukas
Joined: 04.06.2009

Salivanth +1


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hmmm, i'm doing fine on PKR up 80$ on NL4 in 15k hands with almost 13bb/100, and i'm even 15$ above EV.

Playing TAG and owning the place.


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

Poker770 is just as rigged as the rest of them. I stopped playing there after this particularly bad beat:

Poker770 - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $4.44
Hero (SB): $2.81
BB: $3.55
UTG: $1.24
UTG+1: $1.49
MP: $0.86
MP+1: $1.58
LP: $1.41
CO: $2.09

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A♦ A♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, LP calls $0.02, fold, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, BB raises to $3.55 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls

Flop: ($5.62, 2 players) 2♣ 2♠ 2♥

Turn: ($5.62, 2 players) 2♦

River: ($5.62, 2 players) 2♣

BB shows 7♣ 2♣ and wins pot of $5.31
Hero mucks A♦ A♥ (Flop: 0%, Turn: -16%, River: enjoying-the-film-pearl-harbour-%)

You tell me that's just variance _confused:


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kennyxx
Joined: 16.05.2008

hmm, realy cruel bad beat, so many swans in the deck. How can one lose with five of a kind


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maybe you are just learning to play better and thats why your results are better. Or maybe you are still crap but are running good now. all sites bascially use the same now.

But maybe you are right. Quick question though. When you first joined pokerstars - why would they rig the game against you? they would not have know you were a already a great player. Woulnt they rig it in your favour so you would stay a while?


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jaggedlink
Joined: 13.11.2009

Stay away from tables with 6/8 of the same avatar.

Multi-accounting ftw _evil:


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i agree with Metza, all online poker is rigged, my favorite is 770 . try not to make a deposit, u will see how long will you play at 770 or any poker to earned a 10c


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Arron63
Joined: 09.01.2011

But I'm -$ on iPoker I think. Where's the fairness in that?

Try harder iPoker! :coolface:


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Variance on stars:

PokerStars Hand #83399212567: Tournament #588066433, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/07/16 8:43:29 ET
Table '588066433 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 (1000 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 (1360 in chips)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 (1350 in chips)
Seat 4: DOT19 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: musti-tou (3400 in chips)
Seat 7: TheGoanna (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: smiley220577 (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: SouLobao! (600 in chips)
Smekh7: posts small blind 10
musti-tou: posts big blind 20
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to 23 devil 23 [5d 5s]
TheGoanna: folds
smiley220577: folds
SouLobao!: folds
23 devil 23: calls 20
pokerdjiq88: folds
Andrey-bo283: folds
DOT19: folds
Smekh7: calls 10
musti-tou: checks
FLOP [4h 5c 9d]
Smekh7: checks
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 500
Smekh7: folds
musti-tou: calls 500
TURN [4h 5c 9d] [6d]
TheGoanna has returned
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 480 and is all-in
musti-tou: calls 480
RIVER [4h 5c 9d 6d] [7s]
SHOW DOWN
musti-tou: shows [Ah 8c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
23 devil 23: shows [5d 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
musti-tou collected 2020 from pot
23 devil 23 finished the tournament in 45th place
SUMMARY
Total pot 2020 | Rake 0
Board [4h 5c 9d 6d 7s]
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 showed [5d 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DOT19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: musti-tou (big blind) showed [Ah 8c] and won (2020) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 7: TheGoanna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: smiley220577 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SouLobao! folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seems legit! 96.77%:3.23%- on the flop 3,23 % wins hand


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cufc37
Joined: 06.04.2012

maybe that's why they say it's 96.77%:3.23% and not 100%:0%


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Originally posted by 23devil23
Variance on stars:

PokerStars Hand #83399212567: Tournament #588066433, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/07/16 8:43:29 ET
Table '588066433 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 (1000 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 (1360 in chips)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 (1350 in chips)
Seat 4: DOT19 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: musti-tou (3400 in chips)
Seat 7: TheGoanna (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: smiley220577 (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: SouLobao! (600 in chips)
Smekh7: posts small blind 10
musti-tou: posts big blind 20
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to 23 devil 23 [5d 5s]
TheGoanna: folds
smiley220577: folds
SouLobao!: folds
23 devil 23: calls 20
pokerdjiq88: folds
Andrey-bo283: folds
DOT19: folds
Smekh7: calls 10
musti-tou: checks
FLOP [4h 5c 9d]
Smekh7: checks
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 500
Smekh7: folds
musti-tou: calls 500
TURN [4h 5c 9d] [6d]
TheGoanna has returned
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 480 and is all-in
musti-tou: calls 480
RIVER [4h 5c 9d 6d] [7s]
SHOW DOWN
musti-tou: shows [Ah 8c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
23 devil 23: shows [5d 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
musti-tou collected 2020 from pot
23 devil 23 finished the tournament in 45th place
SUMMARY
Total pot 2020 | Rake 0
Board [4h 5c 9d 6d 7s]
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 showed [5d 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DOT19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: musti-tou (big blind) showed [Ah 8c] and won (2020) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 7: TheGoanna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: smiley220577 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SouLobao! folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seems legit! 96.77%:3.23%- on the flop 3,23 % wins hand

Well, you clearly don't understand what variance is...


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Originally posted by TiciBoy

Originally posted by 23devil23
Variance on stars:

PokerStars Hand #83399212567: Tournament #588066433, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/07/16 8:43:29 ET
Table '588066433 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 (1000 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 (1360 in chips)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 (1350 in chips)
Seat 4: DOT19 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: musti-tou (3400 in chips)
Seat 7: TheGoanna (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: smiley220577 (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: SouLobao! (600 in chips)
Smekh7: posts small blind 10
musti-tou: posts big blind 20
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to 23 devil 23 [5d 5s]
TheGoanna: folds
smiley220577: folds
SouLobao!: folds
23 devil 23: calls 20
pokerdjiq88: folds
Andrey-bo283: folds
DOT19: folds
Smekh7: calls 10
musti-tou: checks
FLOP [4h 5c 9d]
Smekh7: checks
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 500
Smekh7: folds
musti-tou: calls 500
TURN [4h 5c 9d] [6d]
TheGoanna has returned
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 480 and is all-in
musti-tou: calls 480
RIVER [4h 5c 9d 6d] [7s]
SHOW DOWN
musti-tou: shows [Ah 8c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
23 devil 23: shows [5d 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
musti-tou collected 2020 from pot
23 devil 23 finished the tournament in 45th place
SUMMARY
Total pot 2020 | Rake 0
Board [4h 5c 9d 6d 7s]
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 showed [5d 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DOT19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: musti-tou (big blind) showed [Ah 8c] and won (2020) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 7: TheGoanna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: smiley220577 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SouLobao! folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seems legit! 96.77%:3.23%- on the flop 3,23 % wins hand

Well, you clearly don't understand what variance is...

Hahaha, this kind of shit happened to me 3 times in a row where I lost in 80+%:20-% spot.Have you ever played real poker life kid?I guess not because if you did you wouldnt say such a bs.THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME ON POKER770, NEVER!


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Originally posted by 23devil23

Originally posted by TiciBoy

Originally posted by 23devil23
Variance on stars:

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PokerStars Hand #83399212567: Tournament #588066433, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/07/16 8:43:29 ET
Table '588066433 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 (1000 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 (1360 in chips)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 (1350 in chips)
Seat 4: DOT19 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: musti-tou (3400 in chips)
Seat 7: TheGoanna (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: smiley220577 (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: SouLobao! (600 in chips)
Smekh7: posts small blind 10
musti-tou: posts big blind 20
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to 23 devil 23 [5d 5s]
TheGoanna: folds
smiley220577: folds
SouLobao!: folds
23 devil 23: calls 20
pokerdjiq88: folds
Andrey-bo283: folds
DOT19: folds
Smekh7: calls 10
musti-tou: checks
FLOP [4h 5c 9d]
Smekh7: checks
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 500
Smekh7: folds
musti-tou: calls 500
TURN [4h 5c 9d] [6d]
TheGoanna has returned
musti-tou: checks
23 devil 23: bets 480 and is all-in
musti-tou: calls 480
RIVER [4h 5c 9d 6d] [7s]
SHOW DOWN
musti-tou: shows [Ah 8c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
23 devil 23: shows [5d 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
musti-tou collected 2020 from pot
23 devil 23 finished the tournament in 45th place
SUMMARY
Total pot 2020 | Rake 0
Board [4h 5c 9d 6d 7s]
Seat 1: 23 devil 23 showed [5d 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: pokerdjiq88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Andrey-bo283 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DOT19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Smekh7 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: musti-tou (big blind) showed [Ah 8c] and won (2020) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 7: TheGoanna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: smiley220577 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SouLobao! folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seems legit! 96.77%:3.23%- on the flop 3,23 % wins hand

Well, you clearly don't understand what variance is...

Hahaha, this kind of shit happened to me 3 times in a row where I lost in 80+%:20-% spot.Have you ever played real poker life kid?I guess not because if you did you wouldnt say such a bs.THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME ON POKER770, NEVER!

If post one hand and saying it's variance, I must repeat what I said...you have no idea what variance is.

So what if it happened 3 times in a row? It can happen and it will happen to someone eventually.
Plus every hand is an event for itself, it has nothing to do with what happened in the past. Even if you loose 10 times in a row the odds will not change because of that.

Well I have to dissapoint you, I played enough live poker. ;) And plan to do a lot more.


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