Ask me anything about 6-max: pleno1's coaching thread

I've got a few questions so you'll have to bare with me, some I'm just after some confirmation, well, here they are. (Assume all are against random, no stats, reads)

You posted regarding your PFR:
UTG 3x €0.30 / MP 3x €0.30 / CO 2.5x €0.25 / BTN 2x €0.20 / SB 3x €0.30
I assume you roughly use this on higher stakes and it works well, but do you not think we should raise a little more to get some more value in the micros? say an extra 0.5 on each position apart from SB? If they are calling 3x, I'd image they'll call 4x also. Or because we are playing loose do we want to keep the risk smaller and win lots of smaller pots?

You've put some hand ranges down, in the CO you've put "k7s+, q7s+ j7s+" am I missing something here or call al this be put down as just J7s+ ?
Whilst on the same subject, ranges for SB? I'd assume its somewhere in the middle of MP-CO ?
What about defending my BB? Defend with most connectors, suited or not + pairs? Does it matter if the initial raise is from UTG or CO?

I find myself in this spot a few times, I will get dealt a nice little hand such as 45s, A3s & JT etc in the SB and BU has limped. Shall I raise 5x and iso whats probably a fish, or limp along?
What if I was BU and had a limper, should I only raise with my K7s+, AJ+, A2-A5s etc and limp with my connectors and pairs?

3B's... Lets say I'm BU and get AQ/AK, MP raises 4x. Whats the best action here, Call as I'm IP and hope to extract value if an A hits as he could hold Ax? Or should I 3B? But my problem with 3B is that I can't see any worse hand calling me.

Thats it for now

J7s+ on its own would include Q2s. (obv a snap raise for pleno)

I think your SB iso range should be the same as your MP open until you are more comfortable or have better reads on the fish

Hey,

I don't know if someone already askes this... I've read you almost never call in the SB. I know that we should never call if the BB is aggro but let's say he's a TAF/nit.
I'm almost always calling AJ/AQ in the SB unless I can 3B for value. I'm also calling 77-TT. If he's bad enough I'm calling 22-77 also to setmine and maybe 3betting TT for value.

With SC's I'm not really sure. If he has a high foldtoresteal I'm restealing KJs, QJs etc but I'm calling if it isn't high and thus he's kinda fishy.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by pleno1
btn = anything suited, q5o+ anything remotely playable.

What hands would be remotely playable here specifically? Does this include hands like 26o+?

hello..
you missed my post so i will put it again..

Originally posted by sandymanufan
hey pleno.
great thread for micro 6 max players like me.
my question is from which limit upwards is HUD an absolute must.
i dont currently use it..but i want to start it.
thank you..

Originally posted by Farmarchist
Hey,

I don't know if someone already askes this... I've read you almost never call in the SB. I know that we should never call if the BB is aggro but let's say he's a TAF/nit.
I'm almost always calling AJ/AQ in the SB unless I can 3B for value. I'm also calling 77-TT. If he's bad enough I'm calling 22-77 also to setmine and maybe 3betting TT for value.

With SC's I'm not really sure. If he has a high foldtoresteal I'm restealing KJs, QJs etc but I'm calling if it isn't high and thus he's kinda fishy.

Thoughts?

Well it depends on people, but its all about adjusting and exploiting our opponent. If our opponent opens button and has huge fold to 3bet then flatting big broadways is good as we will dominate a huge part of his range.

Often showing an initial profit (i.e 3betting and showing immediate profit) is under-rated and building an image that we learn how to exploit is really important.

Originally posted by Ickki

Originally posted by pleno1
btn = anything suited, q5o+ anything remotely playable.

What hands would be remotely playable here specifically? Does this include hands like 26o+?

84, 74, 95, kind of just over the borderline and fine to open, probably fold the nut bad hands, 82, 83, 72, 73 etc once our opponent starts to adjust, we readjust..

Originally posted by sandymanufan
hello..
you missed my post so i will put it again..

Originally posted by sandymanufan
hey pleno.
great thread for micro 6 max players like me.
my question is from which limit upwards is HUD an absolute must.
i dont currently use it..but i want to start it.
thank you..

holla Sandy,

I think not using a HUD will always smash your win rate, $50 might seem a lot to an nl10 player but you will 100000% get the value from it, winning/saving 5 stacks because of stacks will 100% happen.

Even seeing 3bet % is super important at nl10 because players play so passively in general but if you see a guy 3bets 24% then you can slamdunk a wider value range.

Hey Patrick how do you play TT JJ vs an unknown? Are you happy getting it on the btn vs the CO and also from the blinds? What's your default in the CO facing a 3b?

Originally posted by peche025
Hey Patrick how do you play TT JJ vs an unknown? Are you happy getting it on the btn vs the CO and also from the blinds? What's your default in the CO facing a 3b?

So long as the guy isnt a nit, I hi five the virtual dealer/myself and 4bet call

Its the best of 3 pretty meh options. Calling OOP sucks and folding is too tight. We just have to embrace variance and flip vs AK a lot, make money when he folds to our 4bet too.

Thanks for the reply Callum, after running the numbers I completely agree isn't as -ev as I had thought. Do you have any thoughts on as we get deeper, as at even 110bb it becomes more and more -ev, however, maybe the deeper we are the less likely we expect villian to ship a light range?

I'm back on the tables. Feels good.

@staticmoth I'd make a really nitty fold on te turn at small stakes if we think the guy is tight. Generally expect to see a check from ak at some point and from the large bet siibg I don't think he has much thin value. I'd consider all hands that we beat to be thin value bets.

@peche simple. It depends! Vs unknown we should generally 3bet especially at small stakes as we can expect to be called quite often thus meaning we should naturally widen our value range which ofc will include premium pairs. Facing 3bets generally I'd be cautious at smaller stakes people just won't be 5b jamming bad hands as they tend to be passive. However they will often be very bad post flop so calling oop is different to nl200 where tough regulars will put us in coffin spots.

Hi Pleno,

also have a question. If asked already, just say so and I will go through the thread.

I was wondering what your calling range is in SB and BB vs BU open. Suppose BU opens 50%, calls 50% vs resteal and his 4betting range is 6,5%. He folds to cbet 40% and raises cbet 22%.
You can fill in other relevant stats yourself.

Hello Pleno!

I play nl25 6max on euro sites, where are so many fishes, but I just don`t beat this game. My non-showdown winnings is falling heavily. I have lost 1,5buy-in per 1k hands over 75k hands.

There are so many 20-40bb fishes which makes it hard to maneuver and if I don`t flop anything then there is not much to do. My stats are 23/17 which should be okey for 6max, but really it seems to me that I should nit it up. I was looking winning players in this stake and 2 players who were winning were 16/15, which seems too nit for 6max, but atleast it works. Most of the regs to my recordings are also breakeven or losing. So what is your suggestion? What should I do? Actually it should be so easy to beat those games, but I just cant beat.

If you have time, then maybe you could check my other stats and if you see something odd, then let me know.

Originally posted by SimiSim
Hello Pleno!

I play nl25 6max on euro sites, where are so many fishes, but I just don`t beat this game. My non-showdown winnings is falling heavily. I have lost 1,5buy-in per 1k hands over 75k hands.

There are so many 20-40bb fishes which makes it hard to maneuver and if I don`t flop anything then there is not much to do. My stats are 23/17 which should be okey for 6max, but really it seems to me that I should nit it up. I was looking winning players in this stake and 2 players who were winning were 16/15, which seems too nit for 6max, but atleast it works. Most of the regs to my recordings are also breakeven or losing. So what is your suggestion? What should I do? Actually it should be so easy to beat those games, but I just cant beat.

If you have time, then maybe you could check my other stats and if you see something odd, then let me know.

Spoiler

Posting from phone at danielk's leaving party so apologies if I don't make sense!

Firstly I'd say there are some huge profits from that table. Your winnings from the blind are actually pretty good and a lot of players lose a lot more from there.

I would suggest opening our range from no to cut off you should be stealing alot more and opening wider from mp. Something like 17pc sounds right. From button you should try Open a lot of very speculative hands, this in trn will help your non showdown winnings as you will win on lots of flops and turns.

Your cbet from the button should increase and this win some more pots and increase nonsd. Finally I'd suggest folding some more flops va passive players with low cbet and this save some money and help the non sd line.

Any hands you'd like me to look at?

Hi Pleno1,

I'm using PokerTracker3 to review hands and track my results and stats but that's about it.
Would like to make a better use of this great tool but not sure where to start...
Any advice about what reports to run, looking for leaks, looking for weakness in villain's stats etc...?
What would be a good PT3 'routine'?

Nice. Another question, JTs+ means QTs+, KTs+, ATs+, ok? And KQo?

Hey guys,

Holiday in Gibraltar so havnt been online much. Won 50k in Sunday 530 last night so long to relax a little.