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Salivanth
Joined: 01.01.2011

It's not a hypothetical player, it's me :) I've played and won NL4 and NL5 SH cash, so I'm confident in my post-flop play at this limit (2.25's on FT). I will try 6-max when I've gotten back into the swing of things: Still a bit rusty after a long absence from poker. Thanks for the help!

Although ICM would be totally different in 6-max. Hmm. That presents a much larger issue. I guess I'll have to think about it!


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by Salivanth
It's not a hypothetical player, it's me :) I've played and won NL4 and NL5 SH cash, so I'm confident in my post-flop play at this limit (2.25's on FT). I will try 6-max when I've gotten back into the swing of things: Still a bit rusty after a long absence from poker. Thanks for the help!

Although ICM would be totally different in 6-max. Hmm. That presents a much larger issue. I guess I'll have to think about it!

Yes, I guessed as much :)

ICM is more a case of tweeking ranges rather than rewriting the book. 6mx sounds a good option for you, amigo.


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Salivanth
Joined: 01.01.2011

Oh, sweet :) Any idea where I can study 6-max ICM? AFAIK the PS.com ICM trainer is 50/30/20 only.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by Salivanth
Oh, sweet :) Any idea where I can study 6-max ICM? AFAIK the PS.com ICM trainer is 50/30/20 only.

Make sure you are using latest version. I just installed and there is a partypoker 6 handed option in "Poker portal Filters" (top right).

Should be fine for getting a good feeling for situations.


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viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

Originally posted by Tim64

Played this hand vs a reg:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,745)
BB ($1,500)
UTG ($1,500)
UTG+1 ($1,500)
CO ($1,500)
BTN ($1,255)

Dealt to Hero 5♦ 8♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $10, BB raises to $1,500 (AI), fold

BB wins $40 ?(

Anyone care to guess at his range? Perhaps the maths guys out there could tell me with what range this overshove would actually be profitable? What hands would you complete with the intention of calling here, as hero?

I would complete/raise sometimes from the SB if you know BB is aggro enough.. so it depends largely on the reg on reg dynamic you have with this guy. Although usualy not on this blindlevel, and rarely the TOP hands like JJ+ AQ+.

On 10/20 I just openraise the decent hands and complete or fold the rest. So I'm not completing anything on this blindlevel to 'trap' BB into raising.

If it's not a misclick by the BB I woulden't expect much else then top hands here anyway from him.


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

Originally posted by Tim64

Hero ($1,745)
BB ($1,500)
UTG ($1,500)
UTG+1 ($1,500)
CO ($1,500)
BTN ($1,255)

Dealt to Hero 5♦ 8♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $10, BB raises to $1,500 (AI), fold

BB wins $40 ?(

Anyone care to guess at his range?

I would say misclick :f_biggrin:


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its interesting , i wonder if the SB can actually limp/call anything in this spot? top of your range is probably a weak suited ace? and limp/calling a hand like A4s this deep (considering your edge) probably not optimal. so can SB limp/call anything? probably no. therefore, BB can jam atc and pick up 40 chips 100% of the time? lol...

some food for thought. would be a very profitable trap spot for you if he continued to try and exploit this t20 sb limp by overbet jamming 75bbs.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

^^
Will try a few more times, then it's Aces baby. Speaking of Baby:

No doubt inspired by Kevin McBride's gutsy river call, my opponent today at a $100 had a similar plan:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,580)
Hero ($1,530)
UTG ($1,470)
UTG+1 ($1,500)
CO ($1,430)
BTN ($1,490)

Dealt to Hero J♥ 4♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $10, Hero checks

FLOP ($40) J♦ T♦ J♣

SB bets $20, Hero raises to $60, SB calls $40

TURN ($160) J♦ T♦ J♣ A♠

SB checks, Hero bets $135, SB calls $135

RIVER ($430) J♦ T♦ J♣ A♠ 2♣

SB checks, Hero bets $320, SB calls $320

SB shows 3♦ 8♦
(Pre 41%, Flop 26.5%, Turn 15.9%)

Hero shows J♥ 4♣
(Pre 59%, Flop 73.5%, Turn 84.1%)

Hero wins $1,070

"I call: I play the board. Oh, wtf?! I mean, I table 8 high."


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Salivanth
Joined: 01.01.2011

Hey Tim: Another question about the SNG's, sorry to bother you :) I checked out the 6-max ICM, did okay, and confirmed you were right about tweaking ranges, especially BvB, but not totally throwing everything out the window. Was hoping I could get your recommendation on something else. What speed should I be playing, normal or turbo? If the answer is "It depends" what are the factors it depends on? If the answer is "Either is fine", what are the pros/cons of each?


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Normals will yeild a higher ROI.
Turbos will yeild a higher $/hr invested.
Turbos will generate more rake and therefore r/bk.

You simply need to estimate what will give you the highest hourly by simulating $/game for different formats and working out how many games/hr you can play.

Glk!


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

An amazing new food megalopolis has opened in my hometown. We were wowed by one adjacent to Central Park in NYC a few months back, and so it's pretty awesome to have one here for all our ogling needs :)

Thus inspired, tonight I made a smoked haddock, leek and marscopone tart. It was pretty foooook*n delicious, though I say so myself:

Nom, nom, nom. :P


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dydukas
Joined: 01.05.2009

Originally posted by Tim64
Normals will yeild a higher ROI.
Turbos will yeild a higher $/hr invested.
Turbos will generate more rake and therefore r/bk.

You simply need to estimate what will give you the highest hourly by simulating $/game for different formats and working out how many games/hr you can play.

Glk!

Hyper turbos.

Unless you're a genius like Tim and can get 10%+ ROI on the highest limits. :P

P.S. Tim, do you consider cooking coachings?


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008

what a tilting job stacking all those veggies/fruits so neatly :f_p:

omg tim!! looks delic! what you making tomorrow and at what time will you be expecting me? :f_biggrin:


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roopopper
Joined: 31.12.2010

Originally posted by Tim64
An amazing new food megalopolis has opened in my hometown. We were wowed by one adjacent to Central Park in NYC a few months back, and so it's pretty awesome to have one here for all our ogling needs :)

Thus inspired, tonight I made a smoked haddock, leek and marscopone tart. It was pretty foooook*n delicious, though I say so myself:

Nom, nom, nom. :P

Where the fuck is all the meat :f_biggrin:


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haha that was my first thought, too :f_biggrin:


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trickybob
Joined: 28.07.2010

Those fruits and veg are way too neat.

I'm suspicious.

Look at the peppers! :f_o:

I've never seen the like.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by trickybob
Those fruits and veg are way too neat.

I'm suspicious.

Look at the peppers! :f_o:

I've never seen the like.

Whatever you wish:

Spoiler

:f_love:
p.s. All that stacking comes at a hard price, peeps. I might open a stacking (geddddit?) thread. If we all club together we might be able to aford a red and a green one.

Vonki, 7pm Sunday ok?
Roo, shurrup and eat your Spinach - it helps with working out pot odds.


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

Dude am so jealous!!!

I love cooking, but how can u cook without great ingredience...this is just amazing how awesome it looks...Lets hope that one day someone opens one in here :)

bon apetit


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Premiumnerd
Joined: 19.08.2010

http://www.holdemresources.net/h/web-calculators/nashicm/results.html?action=calculate&bb=200&sb=100&ante=0&structure=0.65%2C0.35&s1=2767&s2=4233&s3=2000&s4=&s5=&s6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

Told you it's close :P. But i guess if you consider futuregame aspects it's a reasonable call


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Yeah, prolly a fold cos I doubt you are 90% there. Sorry bout the suckout. If it's any consolation, I'm $600 under EV today, so I really needed that suckout


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