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graz187
Joined: 26.01.2011

Hello I am a winning micro stakes player on-line right now but I am getting crushed playing in live casino games. I have only played 3 times but in those three times Im down 3 $200 buy ins or so. I played last night and everyone was calling everything pre flop. Couldn't get a fold and post flop people were showing down with all kinds of garbage.
I have never seen so many random two pair hands.I didn't really get any good hands pre and didn't flop well all night(these guys weren't even drunk). I know that is an issue. Any way I guess my question is what is the best strategy live?


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

NL2 approach works good for me.


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graz187
Joined: 26.01.2011

NL2 approach, I was thinking that but it just is so boring to play. Only getting 10 hands an hour or so.


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bennisboy
Joined: 11.04.2011

Tight is right

People just don't fold

Also, what stake online are you playing? Maybe you're slightly money scared?


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by graz187
NL2 approach, I was thinking that but it just is so boring to play. Only getting 10 hands an hour or so.

There are no obstacles for winning players. If you want to win, play it right.


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Where do you play? Add me [Edited by HollyMichelle]
I don't mind taking on a student :)


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Spungeh,

This is not the first time I've warned you about this. Skype addresses are not allowed on the forum. Please use the community tool for this purpose.

Regards,
Gary


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bennisboy
Joined: 11.04.2011

OOI why aren't you allowed to post skype names?


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Originally posted by bennisboy
OOI why aren't you allowed to post skype names?

the grown up said so :)


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graz187
Joined: 26.01.2011

on line I play NL 10 or 20 I don't think I'm playing money scared but I guess its possible. So damn fishy, guy playing 37o under the gun with a 7x BB raise, then not folding on a A 3 T board calling down and getting two pair. Just hard to play, I guess I am used to playing with one or two fish like that on a table but on a table of 7-9 at least 5 guys were playing the same way.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Originally posted by bennisboy
OOI why aren't you allowed to post skype names?

For your own personal safety as this forum is open to anyone/everyone to view :)


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

When you play live you can play a lot of garbage in position (at least many weaker hands that you would play online, coz villains are usually idiots and most often you can see the flop cheaply).

Post-flop it's easy. Just bet for value, against good players you can add bluffs, too. Sometimes those calling stations hit, but make them pay expensive to hit something.


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graz187
Joined: 26.01.2011

Yea it was cheap pre, everyone limping. Post wasn't so easy couldnt put anyone on anything they were playing everything. Didn't seem to me that anyone had any idea of how to play or why they were playing certain hands


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dont bluff
play draws aggressively
dont slowplay
vbet very thinly
if u have TPTK/overpair, go for 3 streets always
be exceptionally careful if u get raised


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jules97
Joined: 10.06.2012

Originally posted by zumpar
dont bluff
play draws aggressively
dont slowplay
vbet very thinly
if u have TPTK/overpair, go for 3 streets always
be exceptionally careful if u get raised

why play draws aggressively when you have less FE?


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tommygecko
Joined: 11.08.2012

Originally posted by graz187
on line I play NL 10 or 20 I don't think I'm playing money scared but I guess its possible. So damn fishy, guy playing 37o under the gun with a 7x BB raise, then not folding on a A 3 T board calling down and getting two pair. Just hard to play, I guess I am used to playing with one or two fish like that on a table but on a table of 7-9 at least 5 guys were playing the same way.

Practice on Zynga, find a strategy that works for you, then bring it to the casino


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graz187
Joined: 26.01.2011

tommygecko is on to soething


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-Keep track off pot sizes (and resulting SPRs) yourself
-Pay attention to hands where you fold preflop to figure out player tendancies
-Catagorize players into 4 categories: Loose passive (LP), Tight passive (TP), Tight Agressive (TAG), or Loose Aggressive (LAG). Note the >90% of the players will be passive
-Play a tight range preflop. Raise sizings preflop should be based on the table not based on your standard. Eg: On some tables I am perfectly comfortable opening 15x.
-Learn to bet/fold alot of value hands and almost never slowplay. If they raise you or make a big bet into you, believe that they have it and fold until they give you a reason to think otherwise
-Draws should only be played agressivly if you feel you have fold equity otherwise do the math, figure out if you are getting the right pot/implied odds and act accordingly.


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graz187
Joined: 26.01.2011

Thanks, i5bet72off, thats good advice especially the raiseing to table standards. A 7x raise was getting no one out of the hand.Maybe I just need to play more and adjust. Thanks again


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ThatGuyMatt
Joined: 03.12.2010

Thinking your going to be able to dominate a NL100+ Live Table because you've beating NL2 is crazy talk.

The whole game is completely different and will take more than 3 sessions fo you to adjust. Just because the table is loose, doesn't mean some of them aren't winning regs. Avoid the guys that seem to know what they're doing and focus on the drunk guy who has just sat down with his $100, a pint and stakes his chips in an unusual way ;)

I try to play more aggressive myself, if you let the other regs walk all over you, you'll never win a pot unless you flop/turn the nuts. Don't be tempted to follow their play because it sees to be working, play your Game.

Unless you're sitting on there for a little fun as opposed to losing it on Blackjack I'd stay away from it unless you have the required bankroll. In these games it can be easy to lose several BI's over 5 or so hours and be card dead, you'll get bored single tabling and throw away $.

A friend of mine is very tight on Live, he recently lost £500 (5BI's) over 6 hours, he didn't play bad at all but variance hit hard, the day after he sat with £100 and waked out with £850, unless you're prepared for these swings, stay away.

Thats my personal view, I've played a decent amount Live but I'm by no means a massive winning player, break even, sure. But the main point is, this is NL100, not NL2.


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