BvB 4b pot 99

Hi.

I don't think you should min-raise in the SB. Because of that, your 4bet size is absurdly large in relation to the 3bet size of your opponent. I don't really see how you can construct a balanced 4bet bluffing range when you need to risk 18 more to win a pot of 8$.

As played, villain's 4bet calling range contains many QX hands. I would start by check/calling the Flop. I think by betting here, you just isolate yourself vs stronger hands. And If I wanted to bet, I would go smaller, like 15$.

I think having some info about his fold to F cbet (especially in 3bet pots) would be good. This would allow us to know how light he floats. If he flotas really light here then maybe bet F c/c T could be a decent alternative line (and I would bet 1/3 pot to induce lighter calls).

Thanks.

yep,you are right about the big sizing,i just didn't really want to get called too much.

About the minraising ,that's what i learned from Gordon ,had some coachings with him and he said that it's much better to minraise because u don't need that much fold equity and stuff ,not going to go into detail.

I think 18 or 15 not much of a difference ,still a psb on the turn. I thought about checking but if he checks back there are a lot of overcards i don't want to see.

Fold to cb in 3b pot is 1/7 ( 14% ) and it was the first time he called a 4b in 1.5 k hands

Preflop: Not going to argue too much about that. These days many people also open limp in SB. But if you are not stealing a wide range here then you should not be min-raising. Minraising is also best when opponent is rarely calling but is mostly in a 3bet or fold mode (bad shortstackers are good candidates)

Flop: I suggested 15$ as a standard bet size. It's not so much about sizing it up for a turn PSB, but rather just giving yourself slightly better odds to cbet as a bluff. Remember that this is a 4b pot, there's really no need to risk so much to achieve the same amt of fold equity.

I"m not too worried about protection. I prefer playing for pot control - Queen high boards usually favour the caller, he's gonna have AQ KQs QJs QTs a lot of the time in his preflop range.

Yep,i'm stealing quite a bit in that position , around 50% . Ussually my targets are people with high fold to steal ( some bad multitablers ) and bad regs that i can outplay postflop.Anyway,doesn't matter that much

I agree about the 15$ but i don't see much of a difference,i think his range will probably look the same so i guess 15$ it's better for the bluffing range.

The thing about 4bet pots is that i don't know what people are calling this days. Some traps obv and maybe some AQ ( although i think he would get that in there ), KQ some of the time but QJ or QT i really don't see that often.I mean,is it +ev to call QTs there? since u have to go broke on anything u hit basically?

Thanks for all the replies

Typical defense ranges in 4bet pots are usually suited broadways. Sometimes if odds are really good, you can expect to see some middle suited connectors and suited Aces.

For this hand, your 4bet size is really huge. So I would assume that his calling range would be significantly narrower and not include mid SCs and AXs.