How to play this? (Villain tight to standard reg)
Thanks a lot
PartyGaming - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP: $11.26
CO: $11.37
BTN: $9.75
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $18.73
UTG: $10.00
Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 8♣ 8♦
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.70
Flop: ($2.00, 2 players) 8♥ K♣ Q♥
Hi Misclick,
Preflop: I would say that preflop, given 100 BB deep and being OOP we should just fold this.
As played, go for a check/raise on the flop to let villain cbet all his range.
Hello,
Any info about his postflop tendencies will be welcome.
Against unknown I would fold after the 3bet.
On the flop I would check/raise.
Best,
Plamen
xR to how much? If I check raise, is he shoving anything worse than my hand? I was thinking even draws might let it go with such a board? Or am I giving too much credit to villain?
Originally posted by MisClick
xR to how much? If I check raise, is he shoving anything worse than my hand? I was thinking even draws might let it go with such a board? Or am I giving too much credit to villain?
So why are you calling preflop to hit a set if you are willing to let it go?
We also don't see villains bet size so I can't tell you how much to raise.
But his range can easily have AA and AK that can go broke and not just KK/QQ.
KK/QQ are 6 combinations, AA/AK are 6 and 12 (18 total) combinations).
Plamen: over 45 hands, cbet 0/2, 3bet 1/14 (previous time on BB too v. CO open steal).
Haven't observed him playing any 3bet pots on flop.
WTS: 1/8, w$sd: 1/1. Fold to steal 6/8 (1 3bet, 1 cc).
On flop, called bet 2/3 times, bet on unclaimed pot 1/6, saw turn and river if they let him. Not much info really 
Originally posted by BogdanPS
Originally posted by MisClick
xR to how much? If I check raise, is he shoving anything worse than my hand? I was thinking even draws might let it go with such a board? Or am I giving too much credit to villain?So why are you calling preflop to hit a set if you are willing to let it go?
We also don't see villains bet size so I can't tell you how much to raise.
But his range can easily have AA and AK that can go broke and not just KK/QQ.
KK/QQ are 6 combinations, AA/AK are 6 and 12 (18 total) combinations).
No, I am not saying to let it go (however not sure i cannot let it go, but my question was pointing in another direction). I was wondering how to play to extract value from hands that don't have me beat on that board. Because if I xr and chase all those hands due to scary board, is it really worth xraising? However, If i x/c, then his draws get to see a cheap turn and I am not sure how to play the turn...
How much would the xr be?
For example, I was thinking, what about donking such a board? Do you think he might be happier raising my donk than calling a xr?
Originally posted by MisClick
Originally posted by BogdanPS
Originally posted by MisClick
xR to how much? If I check raise, is he shoving anything worse than my hand? I was thinking even draws might let it go with such a board? Or am I giving too much credit to villain?So why are you calling preflop to hit a set if you are willing to let it go?
We also don't see villains bet size so I can't tell you how much to raise.
But his range can easily have AA and AK that can go broke and not just KK/QQ.
KK/QQ are 6 combinations, AA/AK are 6 and 12 (18 total) combinations).
No, I am not saying to let it go (however not sure i cannot let it go, but my question was pointing in another direction). I was wondering how to play to extract value from hands that don't have me beat on that board. Because if I xr and chase all those hands due to scary board, is it really worth xraising? However, If i x/c, then his draws get to see a cheap turn and I am not sure how to play the turn...
How much would the xr be?
How much did he cbet? The bet size does not appear?
If he bet $1 I'd make it $2.5 or so. But generally I'd raise 2.2-3x here depending on his bet.
I doubt that any hand that he likes and would give us more money later on would fold to a checkraise.
That includes KQ/AK/AA and draws like JT and flush draws.
PartyGaming - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP: $11.26
CO: $11.37
BTN: $9.75
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $18.73
UTG: $10.00
Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 8♣ 8♦
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.70
Flop: ($2.00, 2 players) 8♥ K♣ Q♥
Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero raises to $4.12, fold
Hero wins $4.18
I had 4.90 left behind after that xr. Maybe $3.6 would have been better?
Hey Misclick,
I think your raise is too large. As you mentioned we don't really need to worry about draws. We can make it closer to $3-$3.2 or so.
This would leave behind a comfortable turn shove.
