Video: Turning Made Hands into Bluffs
Producer: Siette777
Length: 20 minutes
Hey guys, even though this video is Gold I still think we can analyse it as lots of the hands come from NL1K+.
Feel free to post discussions and theory that leads from it in the thread.
Just watched the vid, seemed very reasonable, I would have probably auto checked back the turn, even with a hand like 9T not thinking it through
This is based on information about the opponent of course but I would guess a majority of players I play against at NL200 (including myself) have their turn checking and also check/calling ranges severly unbalanced and weak and that the EV of bluffing would be much higher than calculated in the video
What I especially liked is the fact that we have so many value hands in our range and practically no air (meaning no pair hands) on the turn. At NL100 or NL200 I would be very hesitant to pay off KQ and even AQ (as villain in the video) on the river vs most regs as they just do not valuebet thinly at all and would never bet KQ, even check back some AQ.
Seeing our range being as valueheavy, what do you think about overbetting the river? It would allow us to get more value with our strong hands and it puts pressure on even the overpairs in villains range.
Nice vid, tried to find spots to turn hands in to bluffs
Is this fine spot to turn hand in to a bluff?
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $119 (119 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $67.79 (67.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A
Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $7
Flop: ($18.50) A
J
8 (2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9
Turn: ($36.50) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $16, Hero calls $16
River: ($68.50) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $66 and is all-in, BB calls $66 and is all-in
If he folds AK it's pretty nice but I think we have enough SDvalue here to check. Do you think he folds AK?
Originally posted by Farmarchist
If he folds AK it's pretty nice but I think we have enough SDvalue here to check. Do you think he folds AK?
In my eyes this situation is similar to situation in the video - he doesn't have nuts OTR I can check back and win vs some hands but I split vs AQ ant lose to AK. I called twice so I can't have air so I believe he should check/fold AK since he probably expects me to check back sd value?
Originally posted by atton64
Originally posted by gonepoker
Nice vid, tried to find spots to turn hands in to bluffs
Is this fine spot to turn hand in to a bluff?BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $119 (119 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $67.79 (67.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)Preflop: Hero is BTN with A
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $7Flop: ($18.50) A
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9Turn: ($36.50) 5
BB bets $16, Hero calls $16River: ($68.50) T
BB checks, Hero bets $66 and is all-in, BB calls $66 and is all-inI don't like your betsizing here. You're repping flush(/KQ) but with such a big betsizing after he checks it is mostly some hand turned into a bluff. I think you wouldn't bet that huge with your flushes and KQ. I would snapcall this with AQ and AK and maybe A9(if i cant call profitably preflol), and sometimes check my entire range to give you an opportunity to bet your whole range and turn hands into bluff.
What bluffs do you think we represent though? JQ/KJs?
@atton64
just curious, what betsizing would you use? We have a potsize shove left in a 3bet pot, i have never done anything else besides shoving with my entire range, open for some new ideas...
I think this is the perfect spot to turn a made hand into a bluff. As a general rule whenever someone goes bet, bet, check in a 3bet pot they are folding like 80% of the time so i am shoving everything (depends on player dynamics though) . When he calls i expect to see something like AT or JT, if it's AK taking a note
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I think we have enough sdv/don't bluff enough better hands so I'll just check back AQ, but it's a good spot to turn Jx and worse into a bluff imo.
But keep in mind that since this river is pretty good for our range good players can check their whole range here if they expect you to vbet and bluff a lot.
Had hard time finding air in my range to bluff shove OTR and I have a bunch of val hands that will want to go in so decided this is weak enough to turn into bluff. Not having diamond kinda sucks but given his sizing figured we can discount most flushes. Thoughts?
€0.50/€1 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG (€131.50) 132bb
UTG+1 (€115.42) 115bb
Hero (CO) (€103.50) 104bb
BTN (€84.01) 84bb
SB (€101.28) 101bb
BB (€101.63) 102bb
Pre-Flop: (€1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO A♣ Q♠
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to €3, Hero calls €3, 3 folds
Flop: A♦ 6♠ J♣ (€7.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets €5, Hero calls €5
Turn: 5♦ (€17.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets €11, Hero calls €11
River: 2♦ (€39.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets €23.50, Hero goes all-in €84.50, UTG+1 folds
Final Pot: €147.50
Hero wins €144.50 (net +€41)
UTG+1 lost €42.50
Looks good, it's hard for him to have a flush with the A 
on board and you have more J :diamond:X hands in your range than he does the way the hand was played.
I have one as well:
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($278.36) 139bb
UTG+1 ($222.60) 111bb
CO ($147.19) 74bb
Hero (BTN) ($539.37) 270bb
SB ($200.18) 100bb
BB ($231.70) 116bb
Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN Q♦ A♣
UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $6, 2 folds
Flop: 6♣ 5♦ A♦ ($15, 2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10
Turn: 9♦ ($35, 2 players)
UTG bets $24, Hero calls $24
River: J♥ ($83, 2 players)
UTG bets $56, Hero goes all-in $499.37, UTG folds
Final Pot: $195
Hero wins $635.57 (net +$96.20)
UTG lost $96
Impossible for me to have total air, he can't have many flushes with A and Q dead and it's super hard for him to call without a flush.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($112)
BB ($129)
UTG ($324)
UTG+1 ($240)
CO ($224)
Hero ($103)
Dealt to Hero 8♦ 8♥
fold, fold, CO raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, fold, fold
FLOP ($6.50) 7♣ 2♣ T♠
CO bets $4.35, Hero calls $4.35
TURN ($15.20) 7♣ 2♣ T♠ 7♠
CO bets $11.62, Hero calls $11.62
RIVER ($38.44) 7♣ 2♣ T♠ 7♠ 6♣
CO checks, Hero bets $21, CO folds
Hero shows 8♦ 8♥
Hero wins $36.71
Application of the video 
I realised it when I instaclicked check behind and then insta turned off the autocheck and decided it's a good spot to do it It's the best card to do it imo.
nh x3!!!
Is this also a fine spot to do it?
I thought that he would shove himself if he has value and that he'd snapfold AK to my shove.
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2129305
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
BTN: $247.56
SB: $100.00
BB: $106.67
UTG: $50.00
MP: $124.91
Hero (CO): $123.06
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A Q 
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $9, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.25
Flop: ($19.00) 9 A 
T (2 players)
SB bets $11, Hero calls $11
Turn: ($41.00) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $21.50, Hero calls $21.50
River: ($84.00) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $81.56 all in, SB folds
@LgWz: I like that hand and you explained pretty well why.
@x3mwisp: you think maybe making it bigger could be better? Hard for you to have a bluff but w these positions I think villain might sigh call w some hands hoping you are value towning yourself.
@Farma: yea, think it's nh. This river improves us so much we should prob be shipping our whole range, well maybe except AK. 
I actually don't like Farma's hand because the only hand we're trying to make fold is AK. AJ,AT might just call us. Btw AJ would be a snap I believe
Originally posted by gonepoker
Nice vid, tried to find spots to turn hands in to bluffs
Is this fine spot to turn hand in to a bluff?BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $119 (119 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $67.79 (67.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)Preflop: Hero is BTN with A
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $7Flop: ($18.50) A
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9Turn: ($36.50) 5
BB bets $16, Hero calls $16River: ($68.50) T
BB checks, Hero bets $66 and is all-in, BB calls $66 and is all-in
vs a good player, that will play the river well, I don't like it and would prefer to have Qh instead but since most guys don't think about protecting their range here and will x/f better hands and we can rep pretty well here I like it.
Originally posted by LgWz
Looks good, it's hard for him to have a flush with the AI have one as well:
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:
UTG ($278.36) 139bb
UTG+1 ($222.60) 111bb
CO ($147.19) 74bb
Hero (BTN) ($539.37) 270bb
SB ($200.18) 100bb
BB ($231.70) 116bbPre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN Q♦ A♣
UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $6, 2 foldsFlop: 6♣ 5♦ A♦ ($15, 2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10Turn: 9♦ ($35, 2 players)
UTG bets $24, Hero calls $24River: J♥ ($83, 2 players)
UTG bets $56, Hero goes all-in $499.37, UTG foldsFinal Pot: $195
Hero wins $635.57 (net +$96.20)
UTG lost $96
Impossible for me to have total air, he can't have many flushes with A
this one is probably my favorite from the thread. combo wise and also imo his sizing looks like he never has a bluff and will fold a ton of stuff that we lose to vs shove so I like it quite a bit.
I think all the hands are fine, except maybe the 88 one where I would seriously consider just folding turn.
It was hard to find a hand that I bluffed sd value OTR.
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($440.64) 110bb
Hero (UTG+1) ($400) 100bb
CO ($470.70) 118bb
BTN ($564.72) 141bb
SB ($557) 139bb
BB ($816.68) 204bb
Pre-Flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 T♥: T♦:
1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, SB raises to $40, 1 fold, Hero calls $28
Flop: 3♥: 7♠: 4♦: ($84, 2 players)
SB bets $44, Hero calls $44
Turn: A♦: ($172, 2 players)
SB bets $92, Hero calls $92
River: J♦: ($356, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $224, SB folds
Final Pot: $356
Hero wins $801 (net +$401)
SB lost $176
He's a standard nit regular, he always will barrell this turn card. On the river I wanted to him fold his QQ-KK, and rivered Jx type hands (ofc he wont fold if he checked Ax). I repped something like floated Axs, and offsuit floats too like AJ-AQ, maybe flatted JJ.I think I won't be able to ship this pot with chback. How about this?
Villain seem like a decent reg not that many hands vs him but from what I have seen he plays pretty standard (about 250).
on flop he could have any thing so I get value on a lot of his hands
when he barrels this size normally I have seen him playing strong hands so I put him mostly on AT+, A4 A7
On river I tried the Pleno shove, hoping to rep hitting my backdoor FD and mostly a hand like KhJh, KhQh and shove 145bb into a 37bb pot 
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
3 Players
Stacks:
BTN ($81.53) 163bb
SB ($50) 100bb
hero (BB) ($143.34) 287bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 3 players) hero is BB 8♦ A♣
BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, hero calls $1
Flop: 7♣ 10:diamond: A♥ ($3.25, 2 players)
hero checks, BTN bets $2, hero calls $2,
Turn: 4♥ ($7.25, 2 players
hero checks, BTN bets $5.50, hero calls $5.50,
River: Q♥ ($16.25, 2 players
hero goes all-in $134.34, BTN goes all-in $72.53
Final Pot: $217.62
hero shows
8♦ A♣
BTN shows
J♥ K♥
BTN wins $162.31 (net +$88.28)
hero collects $61.81 (net -$74.03)
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