WTSD: 26.1
W$SD: 50.1
WWSF: 43.7
cbet flop%: 82.7
cbet turn%: 22.2
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Originally posted by Lucker9200
Originally posted by Lucker9200
Limits played nl25-50
WTSD 22.9
W$SD 49.5
WWSF 46
cbet flop 68.6
cbet turn 48.1My wtsd isnt 27+ but its possible for my blue line to be such cause I ~~often experiment w plays w whole stack or?
Sorry I missed these stats when you first posted.
Mmmm, your WTSD is VERY low. So you are the first candidate to have a low blue line with low WTSD. From my samples, I can not see a relation with WTSD and variance. I think this means you fold much more than me or are too aggressive. Given your cbets are within normal ranges, I guess you don't calldown much? Or you are tight pre flop? This logically may result in your blue line being low. Not saying this is bad - it may be better to be tighter at lower stakes.
Your W$SD is also on the lower side which I have noticed in my samples does have a relation with variance but its not super low. The lowest i've had W$SD at 40.4 over a sample.
often experiment w plays w whole stack or?
Your red line looks consistent, so even though you may change buyin size, I would say at present theory that you haven't changed the way you have played over this sample. Feel free to tell me otherwise though as I need people to confirm or disprove my theories.
Originally posted by Yellowteea
Filtered hands:Spoiler
Not filtered hands:
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Limits played: nl5 eur tables only
WTSD: 24.2
W$SD: 55.3
WWSF: 41.1
cbet flop%: 58.9
cbet turn%: 45.6This is a vary small smaple, but would be greatfull for any thought on the often crossing red/blue lines. Also id like to know preliminar ranges of stats posted above.
Small sample obvs but you are on track for good win rate if this sample is too be repeated long term. Your redline is on a consistant gradient so the crossing of the blue line will just be variance if my theory on blue line = variance is true. Which I am unsure of still.
WWSF low meaning you are tighter than average.
WTSD low supporting you are tighter than average. Not to say either of these are bad - at the stakes you are playing it may be better to be much tighter.
W$SD normal so may mean running normal.
Originally posted by Rihard4a
WTSD: 26.1
W$SD: 50.1
WWSF: 43.7
cbet flop%: 82.7
cbet turn%: 22.2
Based from redline gradient:
You change your strategy around 11.5k hands?
Then change to an another different strategy around 22k hands?
If you could confirm this, I think that is enough people to confirm that consistent gradient redline = consistent strategy.
If true its difficult to analyse blue line changes as you in essence show us 3 different small samples.
W$SD normal so I theorise you run normal on average.
Originally posted by noulispa
nl5 and some nl10 .60 K hands. My red line is so straight why is that ?
Need stats to theorise.
W$SD in particular for variance.
I suspect you are tighter than average which is why your VPIP redline is flat. Consequently your blue line is very very high/good.
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by Rihard4a
WTSD: 26.1
W$SD: 50.1
WWSF: 43.7
cbet flop%: 82.7
cbet turn%: 22.2Based from redline gradient:
You change your strategy around 11.5k hands?
Then change to an another different strategy around 22k hands?
If you could confirm this, I think that is enough people to confirm that consistent gradient redline = consistent strategy.If true its difficult to analyse blue line changes as you in essence show us 3 different small samples.
W$SD normal so I theorise you run normal on average.
I played TAG first 95% of the hands, then tried LAG.
EDIT: Actually, the first 30% was playing really bad. Took a coaching, played TAG for 65% hands, rest LAG.
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by noulispa
nl5 and some nl10 .60 K hands. My red line is so straight why is that ?Need stats to theorise.
W$SD in particular for variance.
I suspect you are tighter than average which is why your VPIP redline is flat. Consequently your blue line is very very high/good.
vpip = 21,8 /pfr 19
W$SD 50,9% , WTSD 19,6%
If u need something else tell me ;D
Originally posted by Rihard4a
I played TAG first 95% of the hands, then tried LAG.EDIT: Actually, the first 30% was playing really bad. Took a coaching, played TAG for 65% hands, rest LAG.
Ace; first theory maybe CONFIRMED. 
30%, 65%, 5% doesn't match up exactly to the redline, but assuming these % aren't perfectly accurate estimates, it is too coincidental for you to play 3 distionct different styles and have 3 distinct different redline gradients.
Originally posted by noulispa
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by noulispa
nl5 and some nl10 .60 K hands. My red line is so straight why is that ?Need stats to theorise.
W$SD in particular for variance.
I suspect you are tighter than average which is why your VPIP redline is flat. Consequently your blue line is very very high/good.
vpip = 21,8 /pfr 19
W$SD 50,9% , WTSD 19,6%
If u need something else tell me ;D
W$SD normal = suspect running normal
WTSD very low = very tight = CONFIRMED why red line flat. (not neccessarilly bad)
I would be interested in knowing your bb/100 over this sample, to maybe get an insight if playing super tight at low levels might be more/less/equally beneficial as playing 'normally'.
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by Rihard4a
I played TAG first 95% of the hands, then tried LAG.EDIT: Actually, the first 30% was playing really bad. Took a coaching, played TAG for 65% hands, rest LAG.
Ace; first theory maybe CONFIRMED.
30%, 65%, 5% doesn't match up exactly to the redline, but assuming these % aren't perfectly accurate estimates, it is too coincidental for you to play 3 distionct different styles and have 3 distinct different redline gradients.
Of course my estimates aren't precise. ♦ But yeah majority of the hands I played were TAG, which are in between of the three styles.
I guess this means I'm leaking serious money by being passive.
Must remember to always tell myself to be a TAG :f_biggrin:.
Thanks Coach
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by noulispa
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by noulispa
nl5 and some nl10 .60 K hands. My red line is so straight why is that ?Need stats to theorise.
W$SD in particular for variance.
I suspect you are tighter than average which is why your VPIP redline is flat. Consequently your blue line is very very high/good.
vpip = 21,8 /pfr 19
W$SD 50,9% , WTSD 19,6%
If u need something else tell me ;D
W$SD normal = suspect running normal
WTSD very low = very tight = CONFIRMED why red line flat. (not neccessarilly bad)I would be interested in knowing your bb/100 over this sample, to maybe get an insight if playing super tight at low levels might be more/less/equally beneficial as playing 'normally'.
My winrate is 6,03bb/100. Also i am playing SH
NL2:
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WTSD%: 30,92
WSD: 56,28
WWSF: 45,09
Cbet F: 70,48
Cbet T: 44,89
NL5:
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WTSD%: 30,43
WSD: 56,22
WWSF: 45,41
CBet F: 74,94
CBet T: 37,84
Originally posted by JCSeerup
NL2:Spoiler
WTSD%: 30,92
WSD: 56,28
WWSF: 45,09
Cbet F: 70,48
Cbet T: 44,89NL5:
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WTSD%: 30,43
WSD: 56,22
WWSF: 45,41
CBet F: 74,94
CBet T: 37,84
Similar to noulispa's graph. BUT you are much looser.
Your WTSD is VERY high and your W$SD is on the higher side of average.
I have never had/seen WTSD & W$SD this high so I would guess that you run good over both samples. I am doubtful, but it is not impossible that you exploit really really well at these levels to get such high numbers.
Negative VPIP redline is interesting and confusing given stats. Mmm, cbet flop give up a lot maybe. Trap a lot with good hands maybe, cbet trap a lot?
Originally posted by Desultory
Originally posted by JCSeerup
NL2:Spoiler
WTSD%: 30,92
WSD: 56,28
WWSF: 45,09
Cbet F: 70,48
Cbet T: 44,89NL5:
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WTSD%: 30,43
WSD: 56,22
WWSF: 45,41
CBet F: 74,94
CBet T: 37,84Similar to noulispa's graph. BUT you are much looser.
Your WTSD is VERY high and your W$SD is on the higher side of average.
I have never had/seen WTSD & W$SD this high so I would guess that you run good over both samples. I am doubtful, but it is not impossible that you exploit really really well at these levels to get such high numbers.Negative VPIP redline is interesting and confusing given stats. Mmm, cbet flop give up a lot maybe. Trap a lot with good hands maybe, cbet trap a lot?
I think NL2 i really easy and beat it pretty solid, but so far I haven't been able too beat NL5. I don't know it makes a difference on the stats, but this is played in FR games.
I cbet flop a lot and re-evaluate ott, but usally give up if I don't have a hand, but this high flop cbet% could be a leak from my side idk. But to improve my red line would it be better to cbet flop less or cbet turn more?
Originally posted by JCSeerup
I think NL2 i really easy and beat it pretty solid, but so far I haven't been able too beat NL5. I don't know it makes a difference on the stats, but this is played in FR games.I cbet flop a lot and re-evaluate ott, but usally give up if I don't have a hand, but this high flop cbet% could be a leak from my side idk. But to improve my red line would it be better to cbet flop less or cbet turn more?
I personally doubt there is a big difference in skill level at NL2 and NL5, but I have no idea as I haven't played enough hands at both. I would suspect that anyone at micros thinking they are having troubles at a higher stake are likely experiencing some kind of difference in variance. You W$SD and WTSD are no different at either stake though.
Your last actual 5k hands at NL5 (not filtered) look like you may run bad whereas on NL2 you have not experienced run bad at all.
I am currently looking at every ones blue line gradient. Yours at NL2 is approx twice average, and at nl5 is just under average. BUT your redline gradient is 6x less than average so that will have an inverse effect on your blue line. What does all this mean? I have no idea Maybe nothing.
What I think with more confidence is that you is that you run 3.75x better at 2nl than you do at 5nl. whether you run good or bad compared to average has yet to be theorised. Given your extremely high W$SD WTSD I still suspect you run better than average.
In regards to improving red line. Red line = non showdown winnings so if you barrel more, you will get more folds increasing red line, you will also decrease blue line because you will in turn be called more. Opening less may improve non showdown winnings. The times you cbet flop and give up, if you don't cbet flop in these spots you will improve red line. etc
Originally posted by acceleration123
Who needs filters lolSpoiler
Change in strategy around 32,500 hands?
Please state:
W$SD?
WTSD?
bb/100?