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Zoom plo100 JJ22 bottom set, drawy flop mwp

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $114.63 (114.6 bb)
SB: $69.10 (69.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $196.78 (196.8 bb)
CO: $59.22 (59.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 J J 2
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) 6 2 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.60, BTN calls $8.60, SB raises to $43, Hero raises to $97 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $23.10 and is all-in

Turn: ($149.80) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($149.80) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$149.80 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 2 7 9 7
BTN mucked and lost (-$11.60 net)
SB showed K 6 6 5 and won $147 ($77.90 net)
Hero showed 2 J J 2 and lost (-$69.10 net)

No reads. No stats.

Is leading our sets on drawy boards pretty standard oop, esp on a board BU may well check back?

When SB raises pot on the flop I'm not happy; on a dry board I think I'd just give credit and fold. Here I felt there were too many draws ... But perhaps my thinking is misguided. It occurs to me that if his range is strong combo draws and 66xx/77xx we're probably in bad shape.

If we decide to get it in, do you agree shoving is best since BU is usually not that strong when he just flats our lead?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

You can lead out if you also lead out draws. Personally I prefer a check/call on the flop as it's pretty wet and then checkraising a blank turn card. When you get set over set in a blinds battle you just have to treat it as a set up, especially on an extremely wet board like this where villain can have such a wide range.


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RuiBouquet
Joined: 21.03.2008

There are so many bad turn cards for us! Wouldn't it be better to check/raise?

What about 3betting this hand PF? And if against only 1 opponent, would it be ok?


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Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008

Not really a fan of 3betting cause its the pairs are very far from eqch other. Something like JJ99ss is needed at least.

As Ribbo said check/ call against BU is best. c/r will bring us in a lot of though spots too for 100bb. Basically all options are viable given how the hand will play out.

If sb leads, im potting.
If BU has a fairly high wtsd and fold2cbet, im leading here to get value from the sb, who most likely will be the weaker player and the bu will fold often enough so we dont have to make too many difficult decisions on turn.
If BU bets big and sb calls, i probably pot too.

In other cases I c/c.


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

I do 3 bet most double paired hands that are at least single suited, but usually avoid it with 22 and 33 as one of the pairs.


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