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plo50, overpair, nfd, double gutter.

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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Villain is unknown... Do you like the way i played the hand? Is the turn a call or shove? If i only call, I'm folding the river if completly bricks, however i think a paired board merits a call, since he could have 2 pair + draw, or top 2 pair.

Is it better perhaps to just jam ott? So i don't make a mistake otr if he ships and he only had a monster draw or sth?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (UTG): $50 (100 bb)
MP: $21.61 (43.2 bb)
CO: $122.72 (245.4 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)
SB: $53 (106 bb)
BB: $50.07 (100.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A 3 A K
Hero raises to $1.75, MP folds, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) T 5 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $3, CO calls $3

Turn: ($10.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, CO raises to $32.29, Hero calls or shoves?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

You have 44% against 2 pair but only 33% against a set.
I have seen people raise the turn here with 2 small flush draws and maybe a straight draw as well. I think your options are fold or shove. I don't see much point to calling the turn because you're going to have to call it off on the river in case villain was raising a big draw and missed.

Largely though, it's impossible to say what is right without a read. I actually don't mind a turn checkraise rather than leading out since that widens villains range on the turn.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Would you ever check call the turn and against what kind of opponent?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

You could only consider check/calling the turn against the nittiest of passive nits.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Hmm, i was expecting you to say it might be reasonable against aggro opponents who like to raise a lot of turns/ and or float widely, since that way we ensure we can't get blown off our equity.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by Tim64
Hmm, i was expecting you to say it might be reasonable against aggro opponents who like to raise a lot of turns/ and or float widely, since that way we ensure we can't get blown off our equity.

Thing is we have enough equity against everything but a set, and even against a set it's close :)


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RuiBouquet
Joined: 21.03.2008

Originally posted by Ribbo
You could only consider check/calling the turn against the nittiest of passive nits.

Why? Cause he will only call the flop with hands that beat us? If he is ultra nit, there are almost any draws that he can call with because of card removal effect (we have blockers to NFD, 2NFD and 3 for str8 draw) so he must have a made hand to call there... Is this a right thinking?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

We have all the nuts draws blocked. A nit could only be calling with a made hand looking for a blank turn card before committing because they would not chase non nut draws.


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provoman
Joined: 22.06.2010

I have expect some good player here with 9TJ :club:Q
He heve 51% on flop but he know what we have ( nut FD + AA)
He wait for blank turn to represent set or some ready hand (top 2 pair vs AA only).
On turn vilian have 53% but we can call/shove here becouse we need only 38%.

Gl in most dangerouse game after russian rullete :evil:


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RuiBouquet
Joined: 21.03.2008

Originally posted by Ribbo
We have all the nuts draws blocked. A nit could only be calling with a made hand looking for a blank turn card before committing because they would not chase non nut draws.

I understand... Very nice thought for instance! Thanks!


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