plo4 A87cQ monster draw in flop

Preflop i really don't like limping here, or at all for that matter. Your handi is also weak; 3 clubs, and the cards aren't working together, so that's an easy fold preflop.

The problem of raising flop is that you are never a favourite by the hands that call you; best case scenario is you are flipping vs a str8, yet villains will show up with sets as well at PLO4, and against those you struggle.

I think turn is fold, not a shove. Villain tells you he has a hand that he is willing to go AI with, so he's never folding. And ott, you are behind to AKxx, which is really the weakest hand anyone will have after taking this line.

You don't have enough equity to call ott, so a fold is best.

I agree, the turn should be a fold to that bet.

well preflop, i think it isnt a great premium hand, but i dont think its a fold, specially from the button, against 50-80% vpip limpers who only raise AAxx or KKxx preflop.

Maybe i should have opened raised from the button, the problem is i dont want to play a very big pot at the flop. Imagine playing against 5 players vpip
50-80% they never fold to 3bets, and i can tell you they can call you with anything if you go allin. I dont think im gonna be crushed equity everytime they call. Remember its plo4.

Dont you like a raise in flop?
or am i adding too much variance to my game?

Well you gave no stats about villains first of all

However, your hand isn't really playing that great even against 50% VPIP ranges. I mean a limp can be played there of course. Risking 1bb to play MW with position can never really be - EV; the problem is your opponents know you don't have a strong hand.

You say these were the players who only raise AAxx and KKxx preflop. You did get raised, and the flop made a set for both KKxx and AAxx; those hands have an even greater equity edge on you then a made str8.

Like i said, i wouldn't shove, as i don't see much value. Villain will fold all of his flush draws, weak hands and bluffs, and only play against you with straights and sets if you raise, so you are isolationg yourself against the top of villains range.

I'd be also great for you if BB called as well on the flop, as you'd be getting bigger implied odds if you hit, so i'd definetly prefer a call.

Ok, so the correct line would have been call flop, fold turn, i guess.

thanks!

I definitely agree with most of what has already been said, specifically fold preflop, fold preflop again to the raise from a passive player and fold the turn.

Against super loose and passive players you really should tighten up a little and just avoid playing weak hands like this.