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PokerStars Hand #98470309444: Tournament #727718606, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2013/05/12 17:28:37 WET [2013/05/12 12:28:37 ET]
Table '727718606 51' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: osmar2 (7740 in chips)
Seat 2: Shane Blane (4742 in chips)
Seat 3: 160877 (11600 in chips)
Seat 4: dimaliki (9452 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: Hero (23320 in chips)
Seat 6: FishingCh621 (12312 in chips)
Seat 7: Aria Pokoten (14650 in chips)
Seat 8: ettiquette (10872 in chips)
Seat 9: vadymzmailo (9335 in chips)
osmar2: posts the ante 10
Shane Blane: posts the ante 10
160877: posts the ante 10
dimaliki: posts the ante 10
Hero: posts the ante 10
FishingCh621: posts the ante 10
Aria Pokoten: posts the ante 10
ettiquette: posts the ante 10
vadymzmailo: posts the ante 10
160877: posts small blind 50
dimaliki: posts big blind 100
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to Hero [9h 9d]
dimaliki has returned
Hero: raises 150 to 250
FishingCh621: folds
Aria Pokoten: folds
ettiquette: raises 500 to 750
vadymzmailo: folds
osmar2: folds
Shane Blane: folds
160877: folds
dimaliki: folds
Hero: calls 500
FLOP [9c Qd Ad]
Hero: checks
ettiquette: bets 975
Hero: calls 975
TURN [9c Qd Ad] [Kc]
Hero: checks
ettiquette: bets 2475
Hero: calls 2475
RIVER [9c Qd Ad Kc] [3c]
Hero: checks
ettiquette: bets 5575
Hero: folds

5quad (so i put it here as its basically 20FO), villian is unknown but 3 tabling some low buyin tournaments. Felt like his range was gona be really strong so although pre is kinda questionable think its OK with some good implied odds vs a really strong range.

Anyone fold at any earlier point post? Anyone call now?

(he left himself 1k on the river, read into that what you will)


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rhinoneil
Joined: 16.04.2008

I am definitely calling at least here.
Think I would be raising the turn and shoving the river.
If he has AA/QQ/TJ so be it but just as likely to be AK


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Hi,

AK is definitely his 3-bet range and also likely AQ.
I would shove turn before some scary card comes, as played easy calldown (although I would likely shove river)

best regards,


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Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

AK is definitely his 3-bet range and also likely AQ.
I would shove turn before some scary card comes, as played easy calldown (although I would likely shove river)

best regards,

I really disagree a random/unknown player is going to have AQ ever here and certainly not value bet the river with it. It wouldn't surprise me to see a random check behind AK here either I think its alot closer than people seem to think.


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gusma
Joined: 07.10.2007

Considering the stack sizes I think it's very plausible , even to a unknown , to be 3betting AQ here. With that in mind there's no reason to c/f the river , I think you are overvaluing the guys' hand nas play.

Anyway , I agree with above and I would pretty much always c/r the turn here.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I've included every combination of JTo and removed JTs from his range.

Board: 9c Qd Ad Kc 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.000% 70.00% 00.00% 63 0.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo, JTo }
Hand 1: 30.000% 30.00% 00.00% 27 0.00 { 99 }

Looks like river's a call if we expect him to bet AK. Keep in mind lots of MTTers, especially the lowstakes regs, make really bad judgments regarding riverbets: they'll evaluate their absolute hand strength rather than their relative hand strength. I will however give the reg enough credit to check back AQ. In reality, AK should definitely be a check back on the river against a competent opponent (put yourself in villain's shoes: what do you expect UTG+1 to call you with? this is a board that SMACKS both people's ranges!)

PS: definitely don't fold the turn.


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