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Pr0teus
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17.06.2013, 15:52

Hi there,

i'd like to know if i could call here.

vilain utg with stats 36/20 in 201 hands and 29 steal and 4 resteal (3bet vs steal).
Equilab gives me arround 41,5% but is this enough for 10bbs?

Sat with 2 tickets, 3rd money, 4th bubble honour :)

Poker Stars, 25€ Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 24,284 (30.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 25,802 (32.3 bb)
CO: 8,559 (10.7 bb)
BTN: 5,855 (7.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 7
CO raises to 8,484 and is all-in, 3 folds

Tks in advance


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TheRebuz
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17.06.2013, 21:56

Fold ainec
Ax, pp, kq,kj imo


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chenny8888
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18.06.2013, 05:56

Hi all,

Originally posted by TheRebuz
Fold ainec
Ax, pp, kq,kj imo

Something like this though a slight bit wider. Definitely fold 97s, absolutely torching money if you call here. The only possible situation where you call here is if you are multiaccounting and here you are the SB as well as the BU here.


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18.06.2013, 10:47

Originally posted by chenny8888
The only possible situation where you call here is if you are multiaccounting and here you are the SB as well as the BU here.

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Pr0teus
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18.06.2013, 13:25

:f_cool:


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19.06.2013, 04:31

I should clarify my response cause I definitely don't mean to be demeaning or insulting.

What I meant is this:

Poker is a zero-sum game. Every positive EV decision we make means that our opponents must lose a certain amount of EV. Every negative EV decision we make means that our opponents will gain a certain amount of EV. Here, when we call, the EV looks something like this:

REALLY REALLY bad for CO (he may bust as a result of our call)
REALLY bad for us (if this was good for us, we should call)
good for SB (he's gonna get a ticket anyway)
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU BB I LOVE YOU for BU (he's so damn happy)

Because of how amazing it is for the button (and it's OK for SB too) (let's call it 1000 units of amazingness), you and the CO have to share between you the 1000 units of awfulness. In some situations, for example when you have aces, the CO takes on over 1000 units of awfulness, and so you are left with some amazingness yourself. Here though, he takes maybe 700 units of awfulness, and you take the other 300.


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19.06.2013, 13:42

Hi,

I would call there AT+, 66+
There should be no reason to put yourself into risk and calling when you´re behind
I´ll rather wait till BU is out or doubles and then play looser.

Best regards,


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19.06.2013, 14:40

Originally posted by chenny8888
(let's call it 1000 units of amazingness)

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btw I don't think that anyone could get offended by what you wrote, it was not insulting at all, at least how I see. It was just a really funny was of saying that you could have said in a really boring way. This wasn't my hand, but on my part I appreciate when sometimes there's something funny and not only the hard professional stuff :). But maybe that's just me.


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Pr0teus
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23.06.2013, 22:06

Ok, ty.

I did won the ticket.

Just had that doubt in that spot, didnt fell like it, but want others opinion.


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