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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

Should I have led the flop? Did not want to since I'm not the preflop agressor :f_ugly:

Then when he almost pot bet it InPosition I thought:
1)it's hard for him to have AAxx since I'm holding one A
2)he would not have bet that much with JJxx on such board
3)he might be stealing the pot with a CBet - I'm often good here :f_biggrin:

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $12.36 (247.2 bb)
SB: $2.45 (49 bb)
BB: $6.02 (120.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5.16 (103.2 bb)
MP: $12.50 (250 bb)
CO: $5.52 (110.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K K T
Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.52, 3 folds, BB calls $0.47, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.58) 5 8 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $1.52, BB folds, Hero raises to $4.64 and is all-in, MP calls $3.12

Turn: ($10.86) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($10.86) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Your hand looks nice, but it's unsuited so you really need to make your decision preflop.

If you think MP has AA then fold preflop as you're completely dominated by him. If you think he doesn't then reraise to $2 and shove the remaining $3 on the flop.

Whatever you do don't try and get tricky like you did here. You completely missed the flop and stacked off anyway.


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

Thanks, I think i get it :f_thumbsup:

Let's say I DID make my mind up that he does not have AAx preflop (which is not true btw :P) - so can I really 4bet hand like KKATr? I mean - what do I do facing a 5bet? Can I stackoff preflop?
I'm asking cuz I thought that the only hands that are good good for a preflop 4bet and potential 100bbs preflop stackoff are hands like AAxx ds and maybe some AA + broadways ss :f_ugly:

Potentially: What HE could have 5bet/stack off preflop other then AAxx?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

4 betting means you get your stack to pot ratio to less than 1 on the flop which allows you to shove 100% of flops profitably.


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

right :)
So facing a 5 bet i could have just called and stackoff any flop? :)

What's the difference between Pot Odds and SPR? The idea is pretty much the same right?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Pot odds often includes implied odds but basically refers to whether the play you're making is +EV or not (do you have the correct number of outs to justify the call).

Stack to Pot ratio refers more to playing unexploitably. A high SPR means you shouldn't give away your hand early on allowing your opponent to play perfectly against you. However if you can get the SPR low enough by making a big reraise preflop then it doesn't matter that your opponent knows what you have because he can't exploit the information as you can profitably shove the flop no matter what comes.


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

wow, maybe one day i will understand it :P

till now i tought that SPR meant wether we are deep or not. If high SPR - play mostly nutty hands, if low SPR - play other good hands aswell cuz you get good odds on the flop to stack off anyway.
A bit like in NLH SSS used to be - if u have AK you raise, CB flop and stack off most flops vs reraise anyway cuz of pot odds - is this analogy can relate to SPR?

A high SPR means you shouldn't give away your hand early on allowing your opponent to play perfectly against you.

give away as in - passing? or give away as in - betting too big when strong?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

As in don't let your opponent know what you have because your range of hands is too narrow.

If you only 3 bet aces you allow your opponent to play close to perfectly against you which is a problem when you're playing deep.


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