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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Calling as a bluff

A very difficult play to execute correctly.
Villain is a master.

IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Hero (BTN): $10.93 (273.3 bb)
SB: $5.08 (127 bb)
BB: $5.29 (132.3 bb)
MP: $5 (125 bb)
CO: $0.72 (18 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A:c T:c
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.06, BB raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.04, SB folds

Flop: ($0.32) 7:h J:s 7:c (2 players)
BB bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

Turn: ($0.96) J:h (2 players)
BB bets $0.96, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3.89 and is all-in

River: ($10.66) 3:s (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $10.66 pot ($0.71 rake)
Final Board: 7:h J:s 7:c J:h 3:s
Hero mucked A:c T:c and won $9.95 ($4.66 net)
BB showed 4:s 4:c and lost (-$5.29 net)


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by thazar
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50

River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28

Results:

Spoiler

$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)

pretty obvious when he donkshoves river. 99% the nuts.


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ikkvr
Joined: 19.12.2012
metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

Originally posted by Rihard4a

pretty obvious when he donkshoves river. 99% the nuts.

Not for 1/2 pot it isn't imo obviously its easy to say that when you see his cards in this particular hand but at the very least he has worse sets in his range, probably a lot more. In any case its never a spot where you can fold trip aces.


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009

Originally posted by Rihard4a

Originally posted by thazar
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50

River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28

Results:

Spoiler

$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)

pretty obvious when he donkshoves river. 99% the nuts.

not at all, I did not see JTo getting there tbh, I was seen a lot of 2 pairs especially KQ tbh, but K3 and K9 also totally possible.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Originally posted by thazar

Originally posted by Rihard4a

Originally posted by thazar
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50

River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28

Results:

Spoiler

$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)

pretty obvious when he donkshoves river. 99% the nuts.

not at all, I did not see JTo getting there tbh, I was seen a lot of 2 pairs especially KQ tbh, but K3 and K9 also totally possible.

Agree.


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Calling as a bluff

A very difficult play to execute correctly.
Villain is a master.

IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Hero (BTN): $10.93 (273.3 bb)
SB: $5.08 (127 bb)
BB: $5.29 (132.3 bb)
MP: $5 (125 bb)
CO: $0.72 (18 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A:c T:c
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.06, BB raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.04, SB folds

Flop: ($0.32) 7:h J:s 7:c (2 players)
BB bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

Turn: ($0.96) J:h (2 players)
BB bets $0.96, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3.89 and is all-in

River: ($10.66) 3:s (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $10.66 pot ($0.71 rake)
Final Board: 7:h J:s 7:c J:h 3:s
Hero mucked A:c T:c and won $9.95 ($4.66 net)
BB showed 4:s 4:c and lost (-$5.29 net)

3 pair obv :facepalm:


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

Put you on 32, obv played you before :f_cool:


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009

Villain snapcalled flop & turn :f_biggrin:

$0.50/$1 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($56.02) 56bb
UTG+1 ($104.50) 105bb
CO ($40) 40bb
BTN ($53.51) 54bb
StaticMoth (SB) ($100) 100bb
BB ($106.24) 106bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) StaticMoth is SB 8♣ Q♣
4 folds, StaticMoth raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: K♣ 4♣ 8♦ ($6, 2 players)
StaticMoth bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: J♣ ($14, 2 players)
StaticMoth bets $10, BB calls $10

River: 3♣ ($34, 2 players)
StaticMoth bets $3, BB raises to $40, StaticMoth calls $37

Final Pot: $114
StaticMoth shows a flush, King high
8♣ Q♣
BB shows high card King
Q♠ 10:spade:

StaticMoth wins $111.20 (net +$54.20)

BB lost $57


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

Originally posted by TinoLaan
3 pair obv :facepalm:

I remember a hand in live NL200, 3 way pot checked down to river KKQ2Q, old guy bets 1/2 pot, I call and show AJ, he triumphantly tables his 33. :f_ugly:

Not as bad as the guy I saw who went busto in NLO200 thinking he had the flush with 3 hearts in his hand, 2 on the board and was against full house anyway. :facepalm:


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maritsula
Joined: 19.12.2011

Soul reader :)

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $74.14 (148.3 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $46.79 (93.6 bb)
UTG: $68.06 (136.1 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $84.31 (168.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
UTG raises to $1.50, MP folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4.50, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($15.25) 7 9 J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $7, Hero folds, BB calls $7

Turn: ($29.25) T (2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50

River: ($52.25) A (2 players)
BB checks, UTG checks

Results:

Spoiler

$52.25 pot ($2.35 rake)
Final Board: 7 9 J T A
BB showed 9 9 and won $49.90 ($26.40 net)
UTG mucked 7 7 and lost (-$23.50 net)


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donut10
Joined: 05.01.2011

Pretty sick calldown

Play hand

$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$27.12:///////;SB$10.98:///////;BB (Hero)$34.38:///////;MP2$50.76:///////;MP3$75.76:///////;CO$65.60:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with A:h, K:h.
MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, CO folds, BU calls $0.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.75, MP3 calls $2.00, BU folds.

Flop: ($6.35) 9:h, 4:h, 6:c (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP3 calls $3.75.

Turn: ($13.85) Q:c (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, MP3 calls $7.50.

River: ($28.85) 4:d (2 players)
Hero bets $20.38, MP3 calls $20.38.

Final Pot: $69.61.
Results follow:

MP3 shows two pairs, fours and twos(2:s 2:h).
Hero shows a pair of fours(A:h K:h).

MP3 wins with two pairs, fours and twos(2:s 2:h).


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by thazar
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50

River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28

Results:

Spoiler

$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)

std :)


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by thazar

Originally posted by Rihard4a

Originally posted by thazar
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50

River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28

Results:

Spoiler

$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)

pretty obvious when he donkshoves river. 99% the nuts.

not at all, I did not see JTo getting there tbh, I was seen a lot of 2 pairs especially KQ tbh, but K3 and K9 also totally possible.

Try to run some filters in your HM2, to see how often they donk shove the river with worse holding than you do. Obv I might wrong as it is NL50, and NL10 is fishier and plain stupid, however I think it will show anyway that most of the times it is the nuts. Imo K9 raises turn, but we can exclude it from his range due to his stack unless he is really wide from the blinds. KQ maybe, but I don't think he would donkshove it otr because of possible straight, so JT only makes sense here.


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009

Originally posted by Rihard4a

Originally posted by thazar

Originally posted by Rihard4a

Originally posted by thazar
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50

River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28

Results:

Spoiler

$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)

pretty obvious when he donkshoves river. 99% the nuts.

not at all, I did not see JTo getting there tbh, I was seen a lot of 2 pairs especially KQ tbh, but K3 and K9 also totally possible.

Try to run some filters in your HM2, to see how often they donk shove the river with worse holding than you do. Obv I might wrong as it is NL50, and NL10 is fishier and plain stupid, however I think it will show anyway that most of the times it is the nuts. Imo K9 raises turn, but we can exclude it from his range due to his stack unless he is really wide from the blinds. KQ maybe, but I don't think he would donkshove it otr because of possible straight, so JT only makes sense here.

depends of the site as well... tbh I have seen them shove with A2C at times but more often thqan not they have a hand and generally a hand that could make sense... this one did not..

Some time they just have TP... when they overbet or c/r it's different most of the time they have ZE NUTZ


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ikkvr
Joined: 19.12.2012

1000bb stack will have to wait that river gave my stack cancer

$0.02/$0.05 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($3.66) 73bb
UTG+1 ($3.05) 61bb
CO ($6.72) 134bb
ikkvr (BTN) ($42.37) 847bb
SB ($5) 100bb
BB ($3.49) 70bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) ikkvr is BTN K♦ 5♦
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, ikkvr calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.65, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, ikkvr calls $0.50

Flop: 4♣ 4♦ 10:diamond: ($2, 3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $1, ikkvr calls $1, SB folds

Turn: 3♦ ($4, 2 players)
CO goes all-in $5.07, ikkvr calls $5.07

River: Q♠ ($14.14, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $14.14
ikkvr shows a flush, King high
K♦ 5♦
CO shows a full house, Queens full of Fours
Q♣ Q♦

CO wins $13.55 (net +$6.83)

ikkvr lost $6.72
SB lost $0.65


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Originally posted by ikkvr
1000bb stack will have to wait that river gave my stack cancer

$0.02/$0.05 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($3.66) 73bb
UTG+1 ($3.05) 61bb
CO ($6.72) 134bb
ikkvr (BTN) ($42.37) 847bb
SB ($5) 100bb
BB ($3.49) 70bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) ikkvr is BTN K♦ 5♦
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, ikkvr calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.65, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, ikkvr calls $0.50

Flop: 4♣ 4♦ 10:diamond: ($2, 3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $1, ikkvr calls $1, SB folds

Turn: 3♦ ($4, 2 players)
CO goes all-in $5.07, ikkvr calls $5.07

River: Q♠ ($14.14, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $14.14
ikkvr shows a flush, King high
K♦ 5♦
CO shows a full house, Queens full of Fours
Q♣ Q♦

CO wins $13.55 (net +$6.83)

ikkvr lost $6.72
SB lost $0.65

pretty loose call, which got punished.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 116.9 BB
BB: 102 BB (VPIP: 18.54, PFR: 15.23, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 155)
UTG: 473.8 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: 389.8 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9♦ J♦

fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 3 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) A♦ 6♦ J♣
MP bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (31.5 BB, 2 players) J♠
MP bets 30 BB, Hero calls 30 BB

River: (91.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥
MP bets 50 BB, Hero raises to 55 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 182.9 BB

anyone could guess what hand he had? anyone?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Getting paid off w/ a set is so rare

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BB: $6.08 (121.6 bb)
UTG: $1.26 (25.2 bb)
MP: $2.28 (45.6 bb)
CO: $2 (40 bb)
Hero (BTN): $9.36 (187.2 bb)
SB: $1.07 (21.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8:c 8:h
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.08, BB raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 8:s T:s K:h (3 players)
SB bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $0.27 and is all-in, BB calls $1.60

Turn: ($5.87) 4:d (3 players, 1 is all-in)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.87, BB calls $3.68 and is all-in

River: ($13.23) 4:s (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $13.23 pot ($0.66 rake)
Final Board: 8:s T:s K:h 4:d 4:s
BB showed 6:s K:s and lost (-$6.08 net)
Hero mucked 8:c 8:h and won $12.57 ($6.49 net)
SB showed Q:s 9:c and lost (-$1.07 net)


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adsefghijk
Joined: 19.02.2011

How not to play KK:

UTG ($3.84)
MP ($5.00)
Hero (CO) ($8.57)
BTN ($5.36)
SB ($7.82)
BB ($4.94)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9:h 8:c
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises $0.12, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.26) 3:s K:c 6:s (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16.

Turn: ($0.58) 5:h (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($0.58) 7:d (2 players)
BB bets $0.56, Hero raises $8.29 and is all-in, BB calls $4.10 and is all-in.

Results: $9.41 pot ($0.49 rake)
BB shows K:s K:h
Hero shows 9:h 8:c
Hero wins $9.41 from the main pot with straight.


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