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Gotta run for now (it's Labor Day here and I plan to spend it watching The World's End and drinking beer!) but keep the questions coming, will be back to answer more tomorrow!


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dannywratten
Joined: 11.05.2010

If you're still answering questions, could you give us the story around this hilarious video from a few years ago?

Like why were you playing so high? (stakes) Maybe some other funny hands from the night?
Had a good laugh the first time I watched this!


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Originally posted by dannywratten
If you're still answering questions, could you give us the story around this hilarious video from a few years ago?

Like why were you playing so high? (stakes) Maybe some other funny hands from the night?
Had a good laugh the first time I watched this!

Lol... someone's girlfriend baked brownies and we ate some. An hour or so later we were feeling fine so we ate some more. An hour or so later we were still feeling fine so thought it might be fun to play some online poker. 20 minutes later this hand occurred. The rest is online poker history...

Little known fact about this session is that while I won this hand, I ended up down $100k on the night. Moral of the story: don't eat brownies and buy-in. :f_grin:


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stripofbacon
Joined: 08.11.2011

Hello, Jay. Just wanted to stop by and say that the movie was really good and was shown even here, in Latvia. Congrats on everything - you did one heck of a job!


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Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

What are your plans for future? Any plans to go full-on poker pro again? Is movie industry the thing for you now?


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Originally posted by stripofbacon
Hello, Jay. Just wanted to stop by and say that the movie was really good and was shown even here, in Latvia. Congrats on everything - you did one heck of a job!

Thanks! Would have been cool to be at the screenings out there but glad to hear you enjoyed it!


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Originally posted by Shevtshenko
What are your plans for future? Any plans to go full-on poker pro again? Is movie industry the thing for you now?

I'm basically retired from playing poker at the moment - I say basically because I'll still play tournaments from time to time and I'll still coach certain kinds of players, and make training videos (right now I'm learning applied game theory under the tutelage of sthief at DC). But I have no plans or interest in being a full time poker pro again, even if online poker was legalized in the US (though I would definitely start playing more often, I could see myself playing casual hours but competitively).

Where I go from here: I want to write and produce my own stories and entertainment that can reach and impact larger and larger audiences. Right now I'm writing a lot of fiction, I'd like to get better at completing and publishing stories and growing an audience, then adapt the most popular/interesting ones into different forms (movies, TV, web, games, comics, interactive books, etc). Right now I just find this kind of stuff more interesting and satisfying than playing poker. That could change in the future - I've never been one to close any doors completely - but for now, that's where my ambition's at.


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Jo Krantz! This is great

Can't think of a good question right now hmmmmmm ok:

- Against which player your up most in your career?
- Against which player your down most?

=)


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Itsnevereasy
Joined: 08.08.2010

Hi man. Super big fan of The Micros. I can testify that the RUNGOOD is real. Just a month after I watched the first episode, I won an MTT donkament with 1800 people for $6,000 - my bankroll was like $500 back then.

Thanks for giving everyone here at pokerstrategy this opportunity. Very generous of you!

Questions:

- What question should someone playing NL400-NL600 be asking you in order to move up in stakes? aka what question would you ask if you were in my shoes? :coolface:

- What element of poker is most worthy of studying in 2013 and why? i.e. donk betting, overbetting, leveling, etc.

- How do you get a fish to play higher than he wants to?


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Itsnevereasy
Joined: 08.08.2010

Oh I got a good one:

Post (one of) the most creative line(s) taken vs an opponent with your thought process during the hand.


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kashmiruzi
Joined: 02.01.2011

Originally posted by KRANTZ

Originally posted by ikkvr
Hello jay watched ur 2m2m and micros series really good :) my question is

1-what is ur biggest achievement in poker ? like biggest win in cash game or a huge mtt win

2- when and how did u start poker and when did u improve ?

I think my biggest achievement in poker has been in founding DeucesCracked. I was one of the earliest online poker coaches and through personal and group coaching, and the training videos we all created... we have taught a lot of people how to play and understand the game better, and furthered its development as a whole. Some poker pros may see training sites as a bad thing but I find learning and teaching to be intellectually absorbing and satisfying, and I'm proud of this.

You probably mean achievement in terms of victory at the tables, though, in which case I think I have to look at my run in the shorthanded and heads up nosebleed games from 2007-2009, culminating in 2M2MM. When I started playing poker I never could have imagined I'd be competing at that high of a level against some of the best players on the planet. It's still pretty surreal to think back on.

I started playing poker way back when Rounders came out, when I was 12 used to play poker in the cafeteria with my friends at school lunch, and then we started having regular poker nights, and then I started playing in other friends' games, before long I was playing every single night of the week. But I didn't really start understanding the nuances of the game until or 13 years old. I was quickly obsessed with the idea of "rounding", felt like it was rebellious and heroic and so so cool to make a living playing poker. I college, when I found online poker and became an active strategy poster on 2p2. That opened my eyes to a whole new world of possibility, the world of the online poker professional. I went broke many times before I got the hang of it, but once I did I was all-in.

do you feel a particular satisfaction in helping kill the games - and makin some unbeatable pre rakeback


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Originally posted by kashmiruzi
do you feel a particular satisfaction in helping kill the games - and makin some unbeatable pre rakeback

This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.


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Originally posted by Farmarchist
Jo Krantz! This is great

Can't think of a good question right now hmmmmmm ok:

- Against which player your up most in your career?
- Against which player your down most?

=)

Not really sure anymore, sorry! I think Patrik Antonius has taken a lot of my money... http://www.pokerkingblog.com/2008/07/04/438000-pot-between-jason-pr1nnyraid-rosenkrantz-and-patrik-antonius/


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Originally posted by Itsnevereasy
Hi man. Super big fan of The Micros. I can testify that the RUNGOOD is real. Just a month after I watched the first episode, I won an MTT donkament with 1800 people for $6,000 - my bankroll was like $500 back then.

Thanks for giving everyone here at pokerstrategy this opportunity. Very generous of you!

Questions:

- What question should someone playing NL400-NL600 be asking you in order to move up in stakes? aka what question would you ask if you were in my shoes? :coolface:

- What element of poker is most worthy of studying in 2013 and why? i.e. donk betting, overbetting, leveling, etc.

- How do you get a fish to play higher than he wants to?

The RUNGOOD is real, I'm happy you got to get some of it...

1) I'm assuming you're already playing NL400-600. So, the question I would ask if I were in your shoes is "why am I not playing higher?" or "what is keeping me at these stakes?". I imagine you want to know something more along the lines of "what does it take to beat NL1k and higher?", but really all it takes is you moving up in stakes, playing constantly, analyzing your play, training, training, training, rinse repeat. There's no magic answer to this, it just takes more work on your game and a complete self awareness of your leaks (even if all you can come up with is "i'm afraid of the better players", you then have to go further and become aware of why you're afraid and how you can leave that fear behind). Sorry if this is a very general answer but once you start to see poker as a game in which your only opponent is yourself, you might start thinking about these questions a bit differently.

This is a really great post with some ways to train: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/101/coaching-advice/systematic-training-drills-nlhe-1107105/

2) Math. Game theory, really. Poker in the past has been full of very vague and intuited answers but math (EV calcs really) and an understanding of how to build a strategy around game theory coupled with exploitative play will give you exact answers. The answer to "how should I have played XY in this situation" will cease to be "it depends" and start to point to "I should have played it like this because it was the highest EV way to play the hand, and part of the highest EV strategy I can play in this context". Math is the true language of poker and the best pros have only recently started to realize and accept this.

3) You tilt him hard and make him think you're a juicy fish. If he's steaming you can try to sit out and ask him to play higher then, usually your opponent is more likely to agree to move up if he thinks you're no good, going to leave, and wants to chase his loss. You can also table chat yo mama jokes

I can't really think of any creative lines for you, it's been quite awhile since I played any interesting hands, but if anything comes to me I will post!


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Originally posted by KRANTZ

Math is the true language of poker and the best pros have only recently started to realize and accept this.

Maybe for you NL guys, us FL guys have known this for ages :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:

Great to see you here Jay. I "grew up", in poker terms, on DC and fantastic still seeing you doing really constructive things for poker.

As far as a few questions for you (in srs biz order):

1) What was the toughest part about putting Bet, Raise, Fold together?

2) How many times did you have to channel Luke Skywalker to get yourself through it?

3) Will the Pie Police or the Chilli be making any appearances in your further productions? :)

All the best for the future man and hope to see more from you in the future


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Itsnevereasy
Joined: 08.08.2010

Thanks Jay,

Brillian answers! Thanks for the advice.


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Originally posted by Boomer2k10

Originally posted by KRANTZ

Math is the true language of poker and the best pros have only recently started to realize and accept this.

Maybe for you NL guys, us FL guys have known this for ages :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:

Great to see you here Jay. I "grew up", in poker terms, on DC and fantastic still seeing you doing really constructive things for poker.

As far as a few questions for you (in srs biz order):

1) What was the toughest part about putting Bet, Raise, Fold together?

2) How many times did you have to channel Luke Skywalker to get yourself through it?

3) Will the Pie Police or the Chilli be making any appearances in your further productions? :)

All the best for the future man and hope to see more from you in the future

Haha, great point, you FL guys have always been ahead of the curve! I definitely speak more from the NLHE point of view (PLO is headed that way too, all roads lead through maths!)

1) Toughest part by far was dealing with Black Friday. We're making a movie about the evolution of poker, the history of poker, following these people's lives... then suddenly online poker is shut down in the US and we're in the middle of filming the biggest event in poker's history! Everything changed. It was extremely difficult to figure out how this would impact the story - not only was the story still unfolding while we were in the middle of it, the entire project up to that point had been focused on making a movie that did not account for Black Friday! As you may have seen in the final film, Black Friday is essentially the driver of all the conflict and drama, so getting there, coming to the realizations that we had to, throwing all the ideas we previously had out the window... very challenging time in the editing room and for the project in general.

2) Haha, not sure I was channeling Luke Skywalker, but I was channeling all the lessons that poker taught me, especially when mentally dealing with vicious, neverending downswings (just keep grinding, just keep grinding... )

3) Oh man, you really did grow up on DC! Haven't heard reference to the Pie Police in awhile. I don't know if those elements will surface in my work in the future but they say you draw on everything subconsciously, so I imagine I will never not be referencing these seminal moments from the past...

GL Boomer!


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bumping this for everyone seeing the movie today as part of the free streaming: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/content/Watch-Bet-Raise-Fold-for-free-right-now_78139/

If anyone has any questions, I'll be around!


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ikkvr
Joined: 19.12.2012

Hey did u play nosebleeds? how much u won/lost max in a day? Did u face isildur1 in his mystery era?

btw watched the documentary it was great good job :f_thumbsup:


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012