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Hero KQ 3bet pre, checks out, cbets flop and floats c/r cos villian has a lot of draws in his range, checks out. binks turn, pot controls, keeping villians bluffs in his range, river is a brick so easy call. Villian has 99.


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wlcKeD
Joined: 24.02.2009

Originally posted by chalkyman
Hero KQ 3bet pre, checks out, cbets flop and floats c/r cos villian has a lot of draws in his range, checks out. binks turn, pot controls, keeping villians bluffs in his range, river is a brick so easy call. Villian has 99.

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vladimir980
Joined: 28.11.2010

$.25/$.50 No Limit Hold'em
SB ($129.45)
BB ($57.76)
UTG ($146.61)
MP ($54.40)
CO ($203.61)
Hero ($172.56)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with ?? ??
UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 fold, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($9.75) 7, 8, J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG raises to $1.6.67, Hero calls $11.17

Turn: ($43.09) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $30.25, Hero calls $30.25

River: ($103.59) A (2 players)
UTG bets $95.19 (all-in), Hero calls $95.19

Total pot: $293.97

UTG shows KK
Hero shows J J

They hold a pair 100% ;)


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

The hand: 09/12/13 - 11/12/13

- Hand open for guesses -

$.25/$.50 No Limit Hold'em
SB ($129.45)
BB ($57.76)
UTG ($146.61)
MP ($54.40)
CO ($203.61)
Hero ($172.56)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A :heart: A :spade:
UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($9.75) 7 :club:, 8 :diamond:, J :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG raises to $16.67, Hero calls $11.17

Turn: ($43.09) Q :club: (2 players)
UTG bets $30.25, Hero calls $30.25

River: ($103.59) A :diamond: (2 players)
UTG bets $95.19 (all-in), Hero calls $95.19

Total pot: $293.97

UTG shows Q :diamond: J :diamond:
Hero shows A :heart: A :spade:

Preflop action is pretty standard. Hero can have many 3bet bluff and and also value hands. UTG calling range is pretty player dependent. But probably something like this QJs, KJs, KQs, 77-TT.

Flop. Here hero should have a value hand more often than not, this is because the board is well coordinated, even though this is 3bet pot villain may hit this flop, therefore here we have to cbet to extract value from weaker TP hands and draws.

Turn is an ugly card for our range and will improve a lot villain range. Donkbet here looks super strong, but may include some bluffs, but we cannot here if we have value hand.

River should hit our range a lot, and villain may perceive that his card is good for shoving his value hands to get a call from weaker range because A is a standard card to continue barreling.

My guess is edited as in the quote above.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

lol, just guess one hand, no info, no nothing, suits don't matter? fine.

preflop 300bb deep, interesting, so is btn the type to 3bet more or call more because of that? well whatever.
btn's sizings are interesting, flop sizing isn't that strong for board texture and stack depth.

so, who has "air", utg btn none or both? i still find it tough to see hero bet/calling with "air" (ie KTcc), i guess utg is the one more likely to have "air", stack depth call wide etc.

i guess i'll go with utg KT (most likely KTcc) and btn AA, as many already mentioned. :f_biggrin:
hero has AA 3bet pot can't fold so quickly, call flop call turn, river top set can't fold :f_biggrin:
utg calls pre because deep, c/r with gs+btn weakness, turn barrel with extra equity, river the nuts ship it obv.

ofc there can be a bunch of other hands, but you can only do so much when you have to put them in only one hand, right? :f_biggrin:
utg could be spewing with Axcc, any of the players could have T9, hero could have 3b b/c flop with KTcc or even Axcc and herocall river due to some sick ass dynamics, or utg could also overplay a low set etc.

i think it's fine to start from the assumption that nl50 players don't overspew around when 300bb deep though, so after AI+call otr both are pretty nutted :f_biggrin:
many already guessed these hands too, but whatever, i don't care, just posting for fun. :f_biggrin:


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011


Time's up!

New hand has been posted, good luck.


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joey1toe
Joined: 12.10.2010

Even though time's up I'd like to share my opinion on the previous posted hand.

Given that we're deep and we have no info on Hero or UTG I think we can first of all safely assume that both of them have some poker knowledge if we look at the preflop bet sizings, UTG opens for 3x Hero 3x 3bets... thus we can already begin putting them on ranges, I'd give UTG's OR about 18.85% & 3bet calling range around 10.11%; Hero's 3bet open range would be something like 5.73%.

Postflop UTG plays x/r that tells me that he either flopped a set with 77 or 88, I think he would 4bet JJ's preflop given that they're deep or that he flopped a straight with 9T or TPTK with AJ. Hero plays c-bet/call the c-bet tells me that he might be semi-bluffing with OC and a backdoor straight/flush draw, but also possibly as a feel bet or to induce UTG to raise... the call after UTG's raise confirms that he either has AKs AJ AQ possibly a monster pp as well (JJ, QQ, KK, AA).

The turn brings the queen of clubs, UTG is quite aggro with a solid 2/3 pot bet which also tells me that the Q is a good card for him, however it dosen't narrow down his hand range in my opinion, Hero calls which as well dosen't narrow down his range.

On the river UTG shoves the doughNUTS in my opinion, I'm pretty sure at this point that he flopped a straight, Hero's call tells me that he most likely has AJ AQ AKs I excluded any monsters as I think he would have raised the turn with them... So closing up I believe UTG's hand is 9T and Hero's hand most likely AJ. Peace.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em (ZOOM)
Hero ($173.30)
BB ($100.70)
UTG ($203.10)
MP ($616.32)
CO ($146.30)
BTN ($128.52)

Preflop: Hero is SB with ?? ??
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $6

Flop: ($18) K :spade:, J :diamond:, 4 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($28) 6 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $17, Hero calls $17

River: ($62) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $98.02 (all-in), Hero calls $98.02

Total pot: $258.04

BTN shows ?? ??
Hero shows ?? ??

Ok, since in the first hand UTG was clearly some kind of uber-aggressive player I just assume that's what happens here too. Hero has KKand knows BTN is very loose, so he just lets him bet-bet-bet. BTN has QT spades, very strong draw on turn and on river he just overbets missing all of his outs.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em (ZOOM)
Hero ($173.30)
BB ($100.70)
UTG ($203.10)
MP ($616.32)
CO ($146.30)
BTN ($128.52)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K :club: K :heart:
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $6

Flop: ($18) K :spade:, J :diamond:, 4 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($28) 6 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $17, Hero calls $17

River: ($62) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $98.02 (all-in), Hero calls $98.02

Total pot: $258.04

BTN shows A :spade: J :spade:
Hero shows K :club: K :heart:

I think here it is good spot to slowplay our top set. If we bet, not many hands are gonna call that are in buttons range, therefore we can check have some stealing equity from the button. Raising also doesn't make sense for use if we have strong hand here, because we want button to spaz with his weaker range.

Turn might improve buttons equity, because we might expect him to call 3bet mostly with suited cards, so we can just x/c again and continue our story and the expect him to spaz on blank river card.

River is perfect card for button to spaz. His shoving range is somewhat a bluff and value. He might perceive us to have some weak range like 99-TT, QJ, JT that didn't want to cbet flop OOP with showdown value. Therefore his shove here is polarized and he expect us to call light sometimes.


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I am quite new to all this but here's my guess. Villain does a standard blind steal with JJ. Hero reraises 3x with QQ. Villain just calls the reraise which could be JJ or TT. I'm guessing JJ.
The Flop: K, J, 4 Hero would just check with pocket QQ not sure if villain has a K in his hand. Because of the check villain must assume that Hero missed and decides to slow play his set with a small continuation bet of 5$ into a 18$ pot. Hero can call with his QQ assuming by the small bet size he probably doesn't have a K in his hand.
Turn: The turn doesn't change anything. Hero checks with his QQ thinking he probably is still ahead. Villain bets hoping Hero is holding a K in his hand bets about 3/4 for value. Hero calls probably thinking villain is holding something like K,J. and is more than likely ahead.
River: The river changes nothing again. Hero checks again hoping for a check down but will call a bet. Villain over bets with an all in hoping for a call. Hero still thinking he is ahead is going to assume its safe to call the all in. Villain wins the pot.
Hero :Q,Q
Villain: J,J
Or I could be way off on this as I am new to the forums.


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DannyMLennon
Joined: 24.09.2012

I think Hero has AJ. He checks the flop to pot control, and induce bluffs from gutshot hands; Q10, A10, AQ, 910. He calls down as none of these gutshots hit and also there are few hands that the Button can represent. KK is unlikely as he didn't 4bet, JJ unlikely as Hero has a J, 44 unlikely as Button may not have called the 3bet with such a weak pocket pair. Because of the range-polarizing overbet on the river Hero can exclude all single pairs besides AK, if that.
I think Button has KJ. He could call in position with a suited KJ against a bb 3bet. The small flop bet indicates weakness but he might have put Hero on a very weak hand and didn't want to bet big. He bets the turn and overbets the river as he knows if Hero has a K or a J, its unlikely for Button to have a monster. The overbet is to seem suspicious so that Hero puts Button on a missed gutshot and calls light.


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darkpenance0
Joined: 02.10.2010

I'm thinking the villain has like KQ, its possible he is just trying to steal the pot because hero keeps checking but I don't think so, he calls 3bet and I doubt he has trash. With KK, AA or QQ he is 4betting probably so I'd eliminate that. It is possible he has JJ or 44 but I'm not sure he bets so agg with a set, he would probably check behind the hero on the flop and then if the hero checks to him again he would start betting. He has to have hit the flop, i cant believe he would risk shoving when hero is obviously very strong without some kind of hand, i'd expect a busted draw to just give up on the river tbh.

Hero I'm putting on a very strong hand, a set of Kings or a set of Jacks, he is happy to keep slow playing it and let the villain hang himself. If he had a weakish hand like top pair then I'm pretty sure he would lead out on the flop to try and find out where he is, the fact he is prepared to check call all the way suggests a set and I'm not sure he 3bets oop with 44. Since I have villain on KQ that takes away one of the Kings so I will put him on JJ.

villain= KQ
hero= JJ


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Sarkov
Joined: 09.02.2013

Looks like hero has KK, 3bet big pre flop, most likely he has premiums QQ+.
Villain must have KJo, late positions flatting it might be his play in zoom.

Hit the set, decided to slow play since , betting might make the villain moves out of the hand.

Villain on flop got two pair and wanted to bet small to induce and going broke if raised with two pairs against draw or TPTK.

Turn play, check back with KK, the villain was being aggressive, let him do the work. Villain bet he has nuts and need some protection.

River card, shows that no flush can be made and only way to beat his two pair is runner runner straight, which is unlikely, so he shoves in hope that he get calls, to get payed out the maximum.

Hero easy calls, since he has a top set and can only be beaten by rr straight.


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parakass
Joined: 11.06.2008

hero: QQ
V : AJ


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zvezdarian
Joined: 29.01.2011

Hero 3bets from SB and than check/call all three streets... very strange line I would say.

I don't play zoom poker that much, either these limits, so it is difficult to me to explain this play. I think that Hero slowplaying KK. Only that hand I would play like this all three streets. He also could 3bet with JJ, KQ, KJ, but if i were Hero at this spot with some of these three hands i would make cbet on the flop.

Villain also has a K. AK or KQ. I would say AK because he could maybe fold KQ preflop on Hero's 3bet or could just check behind on the River.

Hero: KK
Villain: AK

all 4 Kings are dealt


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Ramble
Joined: 17.11.2008

Pre-flop
BTN raise is nothing special, but SB defend seems a bit strong, so when BTN calls I think they both must have somewhat decent hands...

Flop
Action doesn't tell us too much, Hero's check-call for a ~1/3 pot-size bet from BTN is pretty standard...

Turn
Hero again opts for check-call of BTN's ~1/2-pot size bet... BTN could have checked behind but didn't, so either he has something decent enough not to keep the pot small or he has nothing and was trying to take it down with another c-bet.

River
Hero again opts for check-call of BTN's 1.5x pot size bet... curious play for both players...

Other than pre-flop 3-bet, Hero has shown no aggression. He has a strong hand but it is not the nuts. Given that, BTN's overbet on the river seems suspicious and polarizes his hand to either garbage or the nuts (in his mind anyways)...

Final Guess:
Villain: K7
Hero:AK


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Gadgaard
Joined: 25.06.2012

Hero

I see 2 possible scenarios for hero here. He either has the nuts, KK or a bluff catching hand like AJ.

If he has KK he 3bet for value pre and simply slowplay after just hoping for btn to hit something or spazz.

AJ probably in his 3bet/fold range preflop. After flop he has a medium made hand and want to go for pot control, which is why he decide the check the flop. At river he try to bluff catch villain, due to the overbet when all draws missed.

If hero had AK or another strong hand he'd most likely opt for a bet for value instead of checking. With a weak hand like gutshot or air he'd probably take it down at theflop aswell with a bluff bet.

Villain

same story, either a:

- very strong hand (JJ or KJ) he could have KK aswell or 44 however I believe he would re-reraise kings pre most of the time, while 44 doesnt get the greatest odds here and it's a quite close spot without any reads.

Or

- Missed draw, possible combo draw (AQ , Q10(s) , Q9s , 109s)

With a strong hand, he try to induce hero with a small bet at the flop. when the 2nd spade hits, he decide to go for a protection bet, and at the river he overbet to make it look like he missed a draw and wants hero to make a hero call.

With a draw. he standard openraise from the btn and decide to call in hope to hit a good flop where he potentially could stack hero. He does that because his hand has good playability and he has position.
At the flop he makes a small semibluff bet/information bet. to see whether hero completely missed, while his hand still has equity to improve on a later street. On the turn he possible pick up a combo draw and decides to continue his semibluff bet. At river he misses, and go for a big bluff bet to build up as much fold equity as possible.

My guess:

Hero: AJ
Viallain: Q10s


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by joey1toe
So closing up I believe UTG's hand is 9T and Hero's hand most likely AJ. Peace.

Congratulations joey1toe, you guessed this hand completely correctly - it was indeed AJ v T9.

You won our raffle for Week 1 and $50 is on its way to you _cool: _cool:


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011


OK guys, a new hand has been posted - you've got until Wednesday afternoon to guess the hands:

$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em (ZOOM)
Hero ($226.48)
BB ($486.48)
UTG ($245.04)
MP ($265.68)
CO ($103.52)
BTN ($252.32)

Preflop: Hero is SB with ?? ??
1 fold, MP raises to $6, 1 fold, BTN calls $6, Hero calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20) 9 :spade:, Q :club:, 5 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($20) J :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $14.40, MP raises to $40, 1 fold, Hero calls $25.60

River: ($100) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $88, Hero calls $88

Total pot: $276

MP shows ?? ??
Hero shows ?? ??


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dacha87
Joined: 27.04.2010

hero: 8T
villain: JJ


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