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QQ vs nit 3bet preflop

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Hashkan
Joined: 27.08.2011

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 115.6 BB (VPIP: 13.69, PFR: 8.67, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 811)
SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 13.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 75)
BB: 48.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 113.2 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 57)
Hero (MP): 208.2 BB
CO: 262 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♠

fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB??????????

I dont think nits will 3bet JJ-TT preflop so IMO fold. How would u play it and if u call how would u play post flop?


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Hi Hashkan

Preflop: We have an easy fold when nitty btn 3-bets our MP open.

Set mining would be marginal at best.


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Jehryn
Joined: 15.04.2008

Hello,

Could you please clarify why this is an easy fold? The villain has an overal 3bet of 3.92, which is TT+, AJs+, AKo

With QQ you're 57% vs his range, at the very least I would 4bet light to make anything besides QQ+ fold.


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Hashkan
Joined: 27.08.2011

I have a sample of him 3 betting 14 out of 340 times. Its not a big sample enough to say he would 3bet TT+Ajs+Ako. He could easily have gotten AA KK couple of times in row. My record is getting AA 6 times in like 20 hands. You have to look at other stats to make ur assumptions better. And with those nitty stats, my assumption is that he would rarely 3bet TT, JJ ,AJ or AQ. At the best im flipping vs AK and thats not enough in this stakes where u print money from fish.


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Jehryn
Joined: 15.04.2008

Wait, the statisics in the first hand tell me 3.92% over 811 hands, that's normally plenty? Where did you get the 340 from?


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3.92% is nothing and you forget that it's an overall number.

I would imagine that he 3-bets SB and BB a lot more than BTN vs UTG or MP.

The number he got is the chances he had to 3-bet. From 340 chances he 3bet only 14.


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Hashkan
Joined: 27.08.2011

@Bogdan ty coach

@Jehryn ty for feedback. 811 hands total, but when u fold UTG and MP etc u dont have a chance to 3bet, so those hands dont count in 3bet stats.


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