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NL10 Zoom flush 200 bb deep

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Absolutism
Joined: 09.08.2008

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $20.10 (201 bb)
SB: $4.35 (43.5 bb)
BB: $12.10 (121 bb)
UTG: $13.24 (132.4 bb)
MP: $26.22 (262.2 bb)
CO: $15.31 (153.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.90, SB folds, BB calls $0.80, MP calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.75) 5 9 A (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.75) 7 (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30, BB folds

River: ($5.35) J (2 players)
MP bets $5.10, Hero calls $5.10

Results:

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$15.55 pot ($0.70 rake)
Final Board: 5 9 A 7 J
Hero showed 9 Q and won $14.85 ($7.55 net)
MP showed 8 8 and lost (-$7.30 net)

Completely unknown (6 hands, 33/33 (like it matters:D)).

I hate to play deep... I got scared because of his very fast pot bet. Do i have a valueraise (push?) vs an unknown?

If we know that he is a regular, does it makes a difference?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Absolutism,

Preflop 3bet - Q9s should probably be outside our default bluff range vs unknown MP opener.

Flop check-back is ok since BB may be reasonably strong. It's unlikely a cbet would be -EV with this much equity though.

Turn call is fine.

Given we are 200bb deep river is close, we probably a min-raise for value though. I don't hate flat-calling. If villain is a regular he may even fold worse flushes to a raise 200bb deep - but I still think a lot of guys will over value any flush.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Hey,

I think 3bet on BU is fine vs MP.

Flop: I would definitely cbet here. One thing is that we have strong draw with lots of equity. We don't want to give away it for free. And BB's range here is pretty weak because he cold called preflop, so it is aimed towards PP's and some broadways. MP's range isn't probably strong too as he called OOP vs you being so deep. You should have pretty good Ax range that can cbet and get enough folds which you could possible barrel depending on turn card.

As played: Turn call is fine because we still have good equity.

River: I prefer calling here as well because we have only 2nd nuts, and pot sized bet is gonna represent pretty strong capped range, but we beat it pretty often though. But if we raise I don't think we gonna get called very light.

Regards,

Rihard


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Absolutism
Joined: 09.08.2008

Well, on this limit, especially on Zoom, ppl seems to never 4bet AQ, and only 4bet like 50% of the time AK here. So they are full of Ax in their ranges, and its 3way, so i didnt expect to get too much folds on the flop, so i dont like the bet here (and 200 bb deep, if they raise me, i get into some huge trouble).

About the 3bet preflop: vs unknown i just play my "standard", which is to call with QTs, but Q9s is very close, it could go either way, so i took this hand and bluff 3bet it.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

I would also 3bet QTs in the same spot. People actually do 4bet lighter than that on NL10 Zoom. Only 200bb deep they won't because they are risking too much money and they will play very honest. Just because their range consists of Ax it doesn't mean that your doesn't therefore you can surely cbet there.


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