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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

Run good bossman! :heart:


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peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

Congrats on cashing, I hope you can chip up and make it deep!


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peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

Originally posted by pleno1
I wrote a blog about experiences in live poker with some older players

http://wugwug.com/the-old-guard/

This was really good, and very funny, esp the ending:

“but Gary I had fucking jacks, I hate that fucking hand” :f_biggrin:


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dannywratten
Joined: 11.05.2010

Originally posted by peche025

Originally posted by pleno1
I wrote a blog about experiences in live poker with some older players

http://wugwug.com/the-old-guard/

This was really good, and very funny, esp the ending:

“but Gary I had fucking jacks, I hate that fucking hand” :f_biggrin:

Thought the same thing

Had me convinced old guys are on another level until this :P


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Folding the second best hand...

This week has been really weird. I'm typically a huge huge station. I don't believe people and I don't understand their lines and end up saying lol pot odds, I call. This week has been really different though.

On the high roller I had two really big hero folds vs devilish and yesterday in the main I had some biggish ones too.

Hand 1

Weak young reg makes it 4200 in low jack I peel button with Q9 spades around 120k effective at 1k/2k

Flop is

AQ9 ccx

He cbets 5200, I call. (Relevant history is I've been very aggressive and have v bad image, def fine to raise flop but I was intending on potting turn and river and repping missed fd wheras if I raise flop the pot is bloated and this weak guy would fold to an effective 80k,river,shove,or wte but always station two smaller yet still bigger bets)

Turn is

2h

He bets 7200

I decide to peel again, no raising range on this turn.

River is

K c

He bets 12k

The pot is now 55ish so getting ridiculous price but this guy just wasn't value cutting himself and had to fold

Hand 2

One guy who got the better of me all day was Chris Dowling I had v v v v few good hands for the duration of the day, literally card dead for,the entirety. This meant I had to,try and pick some spots but because he was good he was picking up on them and 3betting or peeling me.

I raise utg to 3500 at 800/1600 with ak ss (which felt like quads!) he 3bets utg1 to 7400 I call. 4betting is usually never an option here, vs him in particular it is probably fine but I still prefer to flat.

Flop

JQ4 ccx

I check, he checks behind.

Turn is 7x

I decide to bet. I feel like I can get all ak to fold, and he 3bet TT vs me previously so I can get 88-TT to fold whilst still having ok equity.

River is

K c

I check and he bets half pot. I'm just never good here and again have to reluctantly fold.

There was a bunch of other hands like this and basically my day went

1) extremely card dead can't find any hands at all
2) find a good spot,to raise/3bet to maintain my stack
3) I got it in kqhh v qtcc for 50k and he pings a straight
4) relentlessly floated and 3betted by Chris Dowling where I just have to continuously give up with lots of non equity hands
5) fold river with lots of,hands that feel like they should be very good hands (reviewed top pairs, trips, flopped 2 pairs) but most likely am beat

I did play one hand pretty interestingly too.

History is that this guy keeps telling the tabe I'm a lunatic and then I'm crazy when I was playing really tight. It was pretty weird. Ben Martin was opening onto a fishes big bling 9/10 times I did it once and he told me I was always raising this guys big blind.

I open to 10k at 2500/5000 with aces!!!!!! Utg

He peels his big blind

The flop is j2jr

Now this is a bird I'm checking back close to 100% with aces.

1) It's very unlikely I can get three streets of value here.
2) I can use bigger sizings later In the hand for value it's my entire range than I can on the flop
3) I allow him to pick up equity whilt not caring about him ever really going into the lead on the turn or river in terms of equity
4) getting check raised here would be a nightmare and he's seen me make some big folds so I Imagine he could either raise the flop as a hero and coffin me or lead turn and river for me to fold ace high as he was quite probey (holla pokertracker friends)

Turn is 5

He checks and I bet 10k

I feel like I should go small now to encourage ace high and king high hands to call. I feel like he would lead hands he doesn't feel like he has showdown value with like 89s etc so feel like he will call this bet quite often but may potentially hero fold to anything more than half pot. He called really quickly

River is 6

He checks and I bet 31k and he calls with a5

Some thoughts

So if I bet flop for 10k betting 30k on the turn would be extremely ambitious because he knows I'm setting up a 50k plus river bet and his general bluff catchers are going to be small pairs or ace high so it's extremely unlikely he will ever call then turn. A if I bet flop I have to bet like 10k, 16.4k, 37k. I feel like river gets hero folded alot and ott he may even fold knowing he could be facing a big river bet.

The main two,things are that 1) he can really have very few good bluff catchers on the flop but he can turn a pair and never ever fold. He can also pick up flush draws, straight draws and lots of,great equity cards vs my check back range which will look alot like ace high. 2) should I be worried about getting check raised? Is his too paranoid? I dont think so I feel like I can be out in a tough spot and because of the above coupled with the not wanting to get check raised its a good spot for me to chec, back and extract value later.

I will jump into the 6max and have a re entry if I bust today but looking forward to grinding this 14bbs very very hard.


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

Interesting post, keep going!


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009

Well done Patrick! Now make it to the FT please? :f_biggrin:

Really interesting to follow you. Thanks for the updates :f_love:


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Nottingham - The Finale

I went back to Nottingham and DTD today for day 3 of the main event as 60/63 players remaining. I didn't have any elected expectations really. I had 14bbs and w pretty underwhelmed about the whole thing and then thought, come on we're playing for 670,000 were not out of this yet.

I think as a cash game player in MTTs we have a disadvantage when playing 7-18bbs, moreso 7-13bbs. I do however think that we see spots and think outside of the box way better than MTT players, at least in general . The problem with this is that at times we can over complicate things and make very easy mathematical decisions too complex by trying to be fancy. I would absolutely prefer to play like that though, forever thinking, forever trying to find that edge and forever trying to enjoy this game that pans us so often.

I started the day by raising with the intention of raise folding but managed to either get it through or to get cbets through helping my stack. Chris Dowling was on my direct left being an absolute pain and opening 100% literally opening q2 utg vs 3 reshove stacks and relentless 3betting and post flop wars.

Hand 1

I decided to open cut off to 16k and he 3bet the button to 32k I was short with around 100k at 4k/8k.

Folding would leave me with 94k. Calling and losing would leave me with around 78k.

There was 9x1000 (antes) 4000+8000 (blinds) and 32000 + 16000 (our raising amounts) thus 9000+12000+48,000 = 60,000. If I call I have al,let exactly a pot sized shove left and because he's likely to be really light I can expect decent fold equity post flop but he's going to say "how much" in his cute Irish accent alot,of the time pre flop and calling it off. He can definitely have good hands ofc but a this time he had lost 5/6 big hands on the trot and it seemed as if he was steaming.

Anyway the flop is 865hhh and my q7hh doubles me up :)

I win a couple more pots vs him and then move to another table with Alex Goulder and Jamie RUtherford amongst others. This was a very aggressive table, but it was amazing how much people were folding their big blinds. Somebody told me on the break they folded a5hh vs a button raise into their big blind and the general lack of defending was crazy.

I got very luck/very unlucky in a hand where I defended k6hh pre flop from the big and then decided to just call call on k6xxddxd board with some spidey senses going off, I'm contemplating folding the river vs this opponent and then the king comes and he manages to somehow check back 98 dd for a turned flush. Pretty insane check back by him and I felt Ike I lost 200k in that pot!

Hand 2

I had been reading the updates and Gary Banks had 3 bad bets AA/KK etc. he was moaning a little t the tab,e abut his luck and saying it was crazy.

Jamie who I had 10% in opened lowjack for a min raise off 300,000k at 5k/10k, Gary flat the hijac with 270k and I was on the button with AQ.

I contemplate my options, I ave 380,000k after chipping up with some nice steal,spots. I decide that Jamie is aggro enough to just 3b/5b here and it's unlikely banks has lattes anything that dominates me. With 75k worth of dead money it seems pretty trvivial.

Anyway I make it 59k, Jamie tanks and folds and Gary ants and jams. I snap hoping and somewhat expecting onto see 77-JJ very often but he flat queens and I lose a 650k pot which was huge at the to,e.

I was down to 100k but manages to get up to 300k again. I found lots of good spots to squeeze or steal pre flop after I double up. It folded to my sb with 6 big blinds and I jammed 88. The Internet qualifier took a long time to call with a6 which was ridiculous (he had big stack) and I won.

The blinds went to 10k/20k after the break and I was in the sb in the second hand in on 240,000

It,folded to my sb, and with the guy in the big blind who tanked for so long with a6 it's an obvious any 2 jam and unfortunately he had 99 and the firt cad was a 9 and I and my j2o sheepishly headed to,the rail.

Very sad to bust so deep. I feel like the field was very very soft and apart from Alex and a couple of others was really,confident that if we got some chips we could do some damage. But never mind it was good experience and a decent cash to add to the Hendon Mon.

I ventured over to the 6max and lost 2 bullets. The first one went in expectantly light n tabe sin melis/thewy/tony salmon with 64 on 432 with lots and lots of dead money.

I then got my second stack up to over 200k. I eventually got it in for a hue pot with 67ss vs this super spazzy guys a5o on q95ss where he just decided he couldn't fold in a 3bet pot. Tiltingly the board ran out 33 and he comes back tomorrow closets,the money with lots of betting disks and I don't. I guess that's the downside of tournament poker, in cash we would just continue playing and I'd usually up getting it all back and then some but in tournaments you have to shake hands, say good game and wish the gentleman luck!

It's been a very frustrating weekend. Losing pots in the high roller which felt very unlucky (kkvaj) busting the main event so deep and then busting the 6max in a really big pot against such a bad equity hand it feels like it could have been bigger. I would say that I feel like I've played good. I feel like I've hero folded way too much in so many spots and been wrong too often! I'm pretty happy about the spots that I've folded and been wrong and there has been plenty I've folded and been right too.

I'm not sure if I will play live poker too,often in the near future. I've missed a week of playing online. Not only is that time = money lost but I fall behind on supernova elite pace too. Really enjoyed the whole week though, it's been great. Met so many people who I got on great with and nice to see those who I don't see often, we've also managed a decent result in cash too therefore ill round this up with

Pleno 1-1 DTD


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peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

Nice trip report, it sounds like you enjoyed yourself + learnt a lot from the trip which I suppose is important, gl readjusting to 8 tabling zoom. You'll probably play more hands in the first 30mins that the last week :f_p: Oh and if your not travelling today, why not go and ship the 8m Sunday Million?!


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FFRRAANNKKIIEE
Joined: 30.12.2010

Originally posted by peche025
Nice trip report, it sounds like you enjoyed yourself + learnt a lot from the trip which I suppose is important, gl readjusting to 8 tabling zoom. You'll probably play more hands in the first 30mins that the last week :f_p: Oh and if your not travelling today, why not go and ship the 8m Sunday Million?!

isn't it next week? I hope it is, I wanted to play it too :)

Pat, it sounds like great experience, and great fun :) thx for great reports bro. Cheers!


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Just chopped the warm up with big stack for 94k, chopped the 250.fr 6max for 10.4k and won the 30cubed for 5.5k, not a bad Sunday. hash tag, boom.


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wlcKeD
Joined: 24.02.2009

Originally posted by pleno1
Just chopped the warm up with big stack for 94k, chopped the 250.fr 6max for 10.4k and won the 30cubed for 5.5k, not a bad Sunday. hash tag, boom.

O_o .................. [and this is how it's done.]

P.S. "The funny thing about luck is, the harder you work, the more of it you seem to get." [by someone]


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jmackenzie
Joined: 04.06.2008

woot! congtratz!


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BrokesoBroke
Joined: 23.10.2007

Congratulations on the binks! :)


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dannywratten
Joined: 11.05.2010

wow so sick! Gratz


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jules97
Joined: 10.06.2012

holy shit, congratulations
#ezgame


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peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

Isn't that what I just said you should go and do?! Congrats


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Anyone can win a tournament or have a 6 figure Sunday….the crucible of the Heads up championship is the only true determinant of poker ability!

But seriously congrats, unbelievable achievement.


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So sick, congrats


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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

Well done! Congratz!


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