Originally posted by tonypmm
They're probably misclicking too much. Following Moshman's paradigm, they strive to lower the average time per decision, which results in suboptimal decisions, even pattern recognition bugs. Say, if I was leading in chips on the bubble but then stacked, I might misclick-push any two in the following hand; or not realise that the number of players who're still in has changed. If I'm sleepy, I can misclick-fold KK pre (almost did it yesterday).
Or, if I've loaded too many tables, I start pushing wider and playing push/fold earlier just to get rid of the excessive tables asap ♦
Poker, and especially SnG, grind is rather about the hourly than the winrate. It's a bit different for cash games because mid-high stakes run and are quite soft, so cash regs strive to get to midstakes with low risk and learn a lot because the skills will be vital for beating them at all. SnGs just don't run sufficiently at HS, so the best way to improve the hourly is going not 'higher' but 'wider', i.e. skyrocketing the table count and number of variations played at the same stakes.
OK, I het this point, I know what goals these players have...but thing is that many of em and evetually all of em will simply be bleedin too much money, start losin (they already are) and RB will cover it less and less and they missed the train...
All in all they dont get better in poker but maybe in skills like multitabling and stuff like that. But as in every other job, this leads to burn-out. And in poker it dont take decades but only years. Also in poker u get paid by your skill, so u cant just go on and on and still get paid same...u ll not get paid
Am totally OK with bein like BE player and have SNE...but bein losin and have SNE = just bullshit, it s like "OK I give up I suck at poker but am gonna spend million hours and play million tables and prolly make some money thx to that - these guys it s hard to consider poker players, they ar emore like opportunity grabbers, clickin buttoners based on sometin, but most likely they are not good enough to actually analyze spots as good poker players do...
Fine, go for masstabling with missclicks, sure, but maybe just realize that makin same and same mistakes where u bleed like 1-3% of prizepool on average (typical bad call on bubble or so...) = silly...
Masstablers I give huge respect, guy who are thinkin only about money I give respect, but they dont make mistakes like that on daily basis. They like money, therefore they would cry and cry if they had leak like that burnin 10s of dollars every spot liek that. Masstabling and sacrificin some +++EV moves is OK, but u need to replace these moves by more simplified ++EV moves. Not with -------EV moves on regular basis. Here and there u dont notice bubble, OK...u missclick, OK...but this is not the case. This is simply bad players playin bad poker, havin bad ICM habbits or I dunno how they treat these spots...keep bleedin money and I keep wonderin
So am just sayin that lot of these guys are simply very bad poker players...treatin em like fishes in ICM heavy spots is actually a good idea, the best way to adjust to em...playin near to the Nash against these "top regs" would be disaster...for both, only joy for the remaining field...
I dunno why I post it ♦ It s just that am so so amazed every time...it s like...I know lot of 7s players who knows ICM better
just funny