Originally posted by MilanBurdych
So 4 unknowns from now, other regs can enjoy my not presence
GLGLGL
Although I'd love that ♦ it makes me think if I should not switch a bit more (play some KO, some Reg-Speed, 18man...), to see which games are most profitable...
I guess it's just hard (and maybe a bit terrifying) for a guy who played the same format for pretty much the last 5 months, to just switch to another one
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Originally posted by ThePuppetmaster
Originally posted by MilanBurdych
So 4 unknowns from now, other regs can enjoy my not presence
GLGLGLAlthough I'd love that ♦ it makes me think if I should not switch a bit more (play some KO, some Reg-Speed, 18man...), to see which games are most profitable...
I guess it's just hard (and maybe a bit terrifying) for a guy who played the same format for pretty much the last 5 months, to just switch to another one
Well it s obv sometin that fits me
Thanks for the replay and great update! Im definitely at that stage where I start to doubt myself and will for sure review alot of hands and spots!
Easy game, easy life. 9man non-turbo 30s are very soft indeed, will meet you there.
Gl gl!
Originally posted by mattusko
Great post Milan! keep crushing and enjoy.
thx m8 GL
Originally posted by Beatlemanic
Easy game, easy life. 9man non-turbo 30s are very soft indeed, will meet you there.
Gl gl!
GL!
And enjoy today @ Collin Moshman coaching!
Hey...
As u might notice, many times I wonder how is it possible that REGs, I mean regs like SNEs, 1M milestone guys and so on at 60s+ can make such a huge ICM mistakes in 9mans. And they keep doin it. Most of em are blocked or def not winnin at 9mans but they just give a fuck or I dont know...just rake? Dunno.
So it makes me to this point - if u really wanna get bad in 9mans, get really bad habbits, just observe these top regs playin...really, every bubble u see unbeliavable stuff. So that s why my strateg ythere is usually the strategy ppll had few years back - sit tight and let the money come to u, exact opposite as they keep doin. If ever am gonna make some video from these stakes am totally gonna show u guys how much money is comin towards your direction in logrun when these guys collide on bubbles, itm, w/e---
Every time I bust on bubble at 100/60 am like...comeoooon...there were like million opportunities for other bad regs to bust... but that s just luck
GL
They're probably misclicking too much. Following Moshman's paradigm, they strive to lower the average time per decision, which results in suboptimal decisions, even pattern recognition bugs. Say, if I was leading in chips on the bubble but then stacked, I might misclick-push any two in the following hand; or not realise that the number of players who're still in has changed. If I'm sleepy, I can misclick-fold KK pre (almost did it yesterday).
Or, if I've loaded too many tables, I start pushing wider and playing push/fold earlier just to get rid of the excessive tables asap 
Poker, and especially SnG, grind is rather about the hourly (incl. SNE RB) than the winrate. It's a bit different for cash games because mid-high stakes run and are quite soft, so cash regs strive to get to midstakes with low risk and learn a lot because the skills will be vital for beating them at all. SnGs just don't run sufficiently at HS, so the best way to improve the hourly is going not 'higher' but 'wider', i.e. skyrocketing the table count and number of variations played at the same stakes.
Originally posted by tonypmm
They're probably misclicking too much. Following Moshman's paradigm, they strive to lower the average time per decision, which results in suboptimal decisions, even pattern recognition bugs. Say, if I was leading in chips on the bubble but then stacked, I might misclick-push any two in the following hand; or not realise that the number of players who're still in has changed. If I'm sleepy, I can misclick-fold KK pre (almost did it yesterday).Or, if I've loaded too many tables, I start pushing wider and playing push/fold earlier just to get rid of the excessive tables asap ♦
Poker, and especially SnG, grind is rather about the hourly than the winrate. It's a bit different for cash games because mid-high stakes run and are quite soft, so cash regs strive to get to midstakes with low risk and learn a lot because the skills will be vital for beating them at all. SnGs just don't run sufficiently at HS, so the best way to improve the hourly is going not 'higher' but 'wider', i.e. skyrocketing the table count and number of variations played at the same stakes.
OK, I het this point, I know what goals these players have...but thing is that many of em and evetually all of em will simply be bleedin too much money, start losin (they already are) and RB will cover it less and less and they missed the train...
All in all they dont get better in poker but maybe in skills like multitabling and stuff like that. But as in every other job, this leads to burn-out. And in poker it dont take decades but only years. Also in poker u get paid by your skill, so u cant just go on and on and still get paid same...u ll not get paid
Am totally OK with bein like BE player and have SNE...but bein losin and have SNE = just bullshit, it s like "OK I give up I suck at poker but am gonna spend million hours and play million tables and prolly make some money thx to that - these guys it s hard to consider poker players, they ar emore like opportunity grabbers, clickin buttoners based on sometin, but most likely they are not good enough to actually analyze spots as good poker players do...
Fine, go for masstabling with missclicks, sure, but maybe just realize that makin same and same mistakes where u bleed like 1-3% of prizepool on average (typical bad call on bubble or so...) = silly...
Masstablers I give huge respect, guy who are thinkin only about money I give respect, but they dont make mistakes like that on daily basis. They like money, therefore they would cry and cry if they had leak like that burnin 10s of dollars every spot liek that. Masstabling and sacrificin some +++EV moves is OK, but u need to replace these moves by more simplified ++EV moves. Not with -------EV moves on regular basis. Here and there u dont notice bubble, OK...u missclick, OK...but this is not the case. This is simply bad players playin bad poker, havin bad ICM habbits or I dunno how they treat these spots...keep bleedin money and I keep wonderin
So am just sayin that lot of these guys are simply very bad poker players...treatin em like fishes in ICM heavy spots is actually a good idea, the best way to adjust to em...playin near to the Nash against these "top regs" would be disaster...for both, only joy for the remaining field...
I dunno why I post it ♦ It s just that am so so amazed every time...it s like...I know lot of 7s players who knows ICM better just funny
Firstly, it's OK to call wider than Nash to exploit too loose shoving ranges of certain opps. Secondly and more importantly, as LT3 likes to teach, it's OK to gamble a bit more than Nash allows just for the sake of a '3-max semibubble' abuse opportunity after doubling up, which is poorly reflected by ICM.
Originally posted by tonypmm
Firstly, it's OK to call wider than Nash to exploit too loose shoving ranges of certain opps. Secondly and more importantly, as LT3 likes to teach, it's OK to gamble a bit more than Nash allows just for the sake of a '3-max semibubble' abuse opportunity after doubling up, which is poorly reflected by ICM.
Dude, am talkin about usually spots where nash is ATC for shover and callin range for HERO REG is like 99+. So given the fact pusher is another bad reg or ME or fish or fishy reg or w/e, shovin range is actually rather tighter thn wider (cant be wider right), therefore callin lighter as a midstack on a bubble...really? ♦ sure, call lighter here and there when we talk about diff -0,05% and u r ok with -EV call coz of your stack or u believe your oppo is shovin too much and so on. But on the bubble we talk about takin -1% (in very very best) to about -3% or more diff calls. There is simply no argument to do such a call It s just bad and ll be bad...
3handed is similar, lets say u have a midstack guy pushin btn - population tend to be about nash there even tho some weak regs are lil wider, true...and SB will be this WEAK REG...BB is bigstack...typial bad SB reg snaps there with hands like 55/A8o and so on = again we talk about -1%+ diff, no fuckin reason for that, ever.
And so on...
And argument for us to allow abuse later = absolutely wrong as with these weak regs u simply cant abuse that much coz it s just wrong strategy as they keep callin like...fishes
I totally agree with Milan, there is no excuses for not to know these very basic ICM spots, especially at these stakes...
These guys simply doesn't analyse enough (probably nothing at all) and don't give a sh** for the ICM, just grinding for the VPP-s and hoping the best
Milan is proven winner at his stakes and game type so I don't see why anybody should doubt his approach.
Regarding whole mass multi tabling , omitting edges deal, I think it is very normal thing to do cause not everybody can have strong mental + tactical game. Some guys are better in one then the other area, very rare number of people are good at both.
With Milan the thing is he plays a lot of tables (have seen him 20 table) but his tactical decisions are also super solid , so he is one of those guys that has it all tied up.
On top of this (with all the software out there) he table selects mid/high stakes and makes $ there also.
I mean what's the problem here really ?
Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
Milan is proven winner at his stakes and game type so I don't see why anybody should doubt his approach.
Regarding whole mass multi tabling , omitting edges deal, I think it is very normal thing to do cause not everybody can have strong mental + tactical game. Some guys are better in one then the other area, very rare number of people are good at both.
With Milan the thing is he plays a lot of tables (have seen him 20 table) but his tactical decisions are also super solid , so he is one of those guys that has it all tied up.
On top of this (with all the software out there) he table selects mid/high stakes and makes $ there also.I mean what's the problem here really ?
There is no problem
Originally posted by MilanBurdych
There is no problem
It's like you want them to challenge you more, is that it ? Sense hidden brag in there
Hey guys!
It s been long time again since my last post.
Poker wise...still the same story, I build some plan, start makin pace and BAMM...so right now it s "chicken pox" of my daughters. It means like 3 weeks closed at home, week of fever and so on...she s very brave as usual, she cried like once when she got really high fever...she s gonna be strong woman I think, men should be already affraid Combined with my wifes school/work it sux...happy when I can pull one session...BUT that s priorities
Results are okish.
Life - been playin football every week with friends and after rough start am back in shape (in terms of breathing, cardio), also played my first 9 holes on golf course this year, plannin tournament on Sunday, so that s great for me, finally movin a lil again
Movies and stuff, not much time or mood...
Also finishing plan for USA trip before WSOP, bookin motels and stuff like that, am so excited!
GL
Hey Milan!
Hope your daughter will get better soon!!
I've got a Question. I know you've played a lot of KO SnGs on Pokerstars. Can you tell me your experience with the EV Adjusted values ? I know that HM and HM2 dont take the bounties into account but PT4 is supposed to do it correctly. For normal SNGs it seems correct and both programs show the same value.
Having imported my HH into PT4, the adjusted values seem way too low. Maybe you know something about this issue?
Originally posted by Trerrii
Hey Milan!Hope your daughter will get better soon!!
I've got a Question. I know you've played a lot of KO SnGs on Pokerstars. Can you tell me your experience with the EV Adjusted values ? I know that HM and HM2 dont take the bounties into account but PT4 is supposed to do it correctly. For normal SNGs it seems correct and both programs show the same value.
Having imported my HH into PT4, the adjusted values seem way too low. Maybe you know something about this issue?
Hey man, thx!!
Well, have experience with all now. HM1, version I have, dont know now, when I import into new database KOs I played it looks that it gets profit right...EV - well that s doubtfull, I said many times that HEM dont know that in some situations there was possible bounty to be win adn so on...HEM2 - fuck that, didnt anytin correctly, really anytin ♦ And PT4, seems ok with profit but EV is like minus million ♦ totally off...
So my advice once again, dont look at EV...I dont for long time...okey, might show u that u dont flip well in allins...but thats all and u can feel that after session for yourself
GL