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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by Hamishk

If you haven't played much live and are intent on going to vegas and there is a local casino that has live, cheapish tournaments regularly, then perhaps going along once a week to practice being at a live table might help. Pretty much the only way to get better at that stuff is to practice. Worst comes to the worst, purchase some play chips and fondle them / practice card tricks while watching videos. Like any activity that takes you out of your comfort zone, once you have been doing it enough, your adrenals get sick of spraying great wads of adrenaline into your blood stream and it seems a lot more comfortable.

Yes to both. Ty!


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Sounds like you need another visit to DTD.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by jbpatzer
Sounds like you need another visit to DTD.

When shall I come?


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by Tim64

Originally posted by jbpatzer
Sounds like you need another visit to DTD.

When shall I come?

Better check with Silvia. She's the boss.


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by Tim64

Originally posted by jbpatzer
Sounds like you need another visit to DTD.

When shall I come?

Better check with Silvia. She's the boss.

Second thoughts, just come a.s.a.p. Apparently her knees are not fit enough for poker.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Ok, let's convene on skype and see if we can get a date in the diary :)


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zachrina
Joined: 05.12.2012

Hi Tim,

Will you guys be attending Nottingham UKIPT?

I will be there that weekend. My pal won a seat. I'll probably play sides and cash if I don't win a seat.
If I do then I'll probably play all three :f_cool:


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Hi Tim,

How was the live MTT experience for you? What kind of table did you have, how was the field in general? Seen anyone famous?


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
Hi Tim,

How was the live MTT experience for you? What kind of table did you have, how was the field in general? Seen anyone famous?

My table wasn't too bad although a couple of guys really knew what they were doing. Saw: Liv B, J Cody, Max Silver, Martins Adeniya, Mickey Petersen, Nick Wealthall and a few others.

I'm looking forward to my next time :)


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

How far did you get in the field, did you have some bad hands played or bad reads?
Its different live vs online which is why I asked. Many times you will get blinded out and it takes 2-3 hours to get like top 10% hand or something which makes bluffing really important live vs online :)
Just wondering how you approached it in general


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
How far did you get in the field, did you have some bad hands played or bad reads?
Its different live vs online which is why I asked. Many times you will get blinded out and it takes 2-3 hours to get like top 10% hand or something which makes bluffing really important live vs online :)
Just wondering how you approached it in general

It kinda dont make sense at all. It would only be true if u would have blind levels online also like 40mins+ and thn u could say that u play more hands online thn live in the same blind level and therefore u have higher probability to catch a decent hand...But reality is different.


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Originally posted by MilanBurdych

Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
How far did you get in the field, did you have some bad hands played or bad reads?
Its different live vs online which is why I asked. Many times you will get blinded out and it takes 2-3 hours to get like top 10% hand or something which makes bluffing really important live vs online :)
Just wondering how you approached it in general

It kinda dont make sense at all. It would only be true if u would have blind levels online also like 40mins+ and thn u could say that u play more hands online thn live in the same blind level and therefore u have higher probability to catch a decent hand...But reality is different.

Well I played SNG Master in Prague, also live tournaments in Serbia and my experience is following:

- You play 20 hands per hour at most
- Blind levels vary from 30 to 60 minutes (some turbos are 20-25 minutes)
- Starting stack after 2 or 3 blind levels gets super shallow (if you were card dead , didn't pick spots and simply folded)

So basically after 3 hours of being card dead you end up in 20-30bb , resteal phase where in the matter of next 20ish hands if you don't get a hand you get ultra short.

To make it super clear, I don't say people should bluff in live tourneys more, I am just saying that you may not get any playable hand in those 2-3 hours before you get really short in blinds. But that's just my experience so far with live tourneys, yours might be different with Vegas structures and all :)


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

U pointed out that bluffin is really importnat live vs online, so..now u r sayin sometin else :) I t s like u jump in turbo MTT online and after few levels u r super short coz u didnt have hand, same...I have experiences from various formats live and it s just like online when it comes to structure...sometin is turbo, sometin is depp and so on...

U PLAYED SNG MASTERS IN PRAGUE??? that WORLD SNG MASTERS I was also IN??? no way that s possible we talk about same tourney as we read each other blogs and are in touch :) what did i miss


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Originally posted by MilanBurdych
U pointed out that bluffin is really importnat live vs online, so..now u r sayin sometin else :) I t s like u jump in turbo MTT online and after few levels u r super short coz u didnt have hand, same...I have experiences from various formats live and it s just like online when it comes to structure...sometin is turbo, sometin is depp and so on...

U PLAYED SNG MASTERS IN PRAGUE??? that WORLD SNG MASTERS I was also IN??? no way that s possible we talk about same tourney as we read each other blogs and are in touch :) what did i miss

Yep I stand by what I said , I think its important and explained why I think so. I don't want to advise people on it tough, everybody should play the strategy they feel is most profitable for them.
BTW I hate the stories from MTT players saying I folded 2-3 hours, got AK and lost to xx. It immediately gets me thinking why didn't you play some post flop, get some non showdown winnings going, outplay your opponents etc. It ain't Hypers to wait for hand and ship, there is definitely space to play tons of post flop and own them in MTTs. (doubt Pleno got 200k cashes last week with FT just waiting for hands , pretty sure he bluffed the hell out of them

SNG Masters story didn't happen this year, it was last year. I won it through Stan James website rake race. Got round before final ticket as top 3 racker , then won that and won HU to get the whole package. When I played it package was worth 3.6k euro if I recall correctly.
We didn't know each other then but if we did I would have called you in Prague to hang out - was there for 4-5 days during that tourney :)


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Interesting discussions, here :)

You both have more live exp than me, so I won't argue.

The UKIPT was a very deep structure with 400bb start.

The hands I played I was mostly happy with, apart from a couple of nonsense plays with a small chip effect. Didn't get paid off on the few (2 or 3?) spots where I made decent top pair+. Bluff catched one nice hand. Most of my bluffs got through.

But basically, the best hand I had was TT. I 3b it, and hit Kxx and got a bit of value vs a bluff vs A high. Flopped 2 pair after a light 3b with AT and villain snap folded flop. And that was it. No other premium hands in 7 hours, no draws getting there post. Just nothing much more I could have done, in my (hopefully reasonably objective) opinion.

Imho, the need to bluff more or less isn't a function of whether you are live or online, but simply the kind of table you have and how much respect you have and whether you are making hands or not. If you get premiums all the time, not much bluffin' needed.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Recently watched Dogtown and Z-boys and Bones Brigade: an Autobiography. Some really emotional moments, and they've jointly reawoken a part of me that's been asleep for many years.

I'm seriously considering buying one of these: :facepalm:

I know. How midlife crisis is this???

So much beauty out there...


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I'm pretty sure you will break every bone in your body if you buy that :f_biggrin:


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Where is "nodding" emoticon when you need him?


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by Tim64
I know. How midlife crisis is this???

Welcome to the club.


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

LOL

buy a Porsche...


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