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AceSteph
AceSteph
Joined: 31.03.2010
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09.04.2014, 01:19

PokerStars - $4+$0.40|1000/2000 Ante 250 NL (4 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 218,505 (VPIP: 41.38, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 10.42, Hands: 235)
SB: 92,878 (VPIP: 34.38, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (BB): 76,482
CO: 90,280 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

4 players post ante of 250, SB posts SB 1,000, Hero posts BB 2,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 4,000) Hero has K♦ K♣

CO raises to 4,295, fold, SB calls 3,295, Hero raises to 11,111, CO calls 6,816, SB calls 6,816

Flop: (34,333, 3 players) T♥ 8♦ 2♠
SB checks, Hero bets 13,775, CO raises to 28,957, SB raises to 81,517 and is all-in Hero???

end stage of rebuy tour. flop???


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letmewinplz8
letmewinplz8
Joined: 15.05.2010
Posts: 439
09.04.2014, 02:40

Bigger pre

Tough one - probably fold


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_Anonymous_
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09.04.2014, 11:23

Hi,

I don´t think anyone is going to call pre with T8s and especially T2s, 8s2s or if they do then you may also see J9s, 97s hands.
KK is too strong to b/f in 4-handed 3-bet pot on rebuy tournament in 4$ tourney :)
B/c is imo standard spot until it is some kind of final table bubble.

best regards,


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Havlisak
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Joined: 18.05.2009
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09.04.2014, 15:02

I make it 13K preflop. On the flop, I am folding this against two random. I think SB rarely has a hand u beat, and all sets are pretty reasonable.


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chenny8888
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10.04.2014, 06:48

Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
I make it 13K preflop. On the flop, I am folding this against two random. I think SB rarely has a hand u beat, and all sets are pretty reasonable.

I agree entirely with this. Against unknowns, it's irrelevant of stakes really, and probably this is a stronger play at lower stakes than higher stakes.


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AceSteph
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10.04.2014, 10:30

Thank you all!

Since I thought that SB can have all AT, KT type of hands as well that he cannot fold I shoved. CO folded, SB called with T8s, but I got lucky. Next time I'll fold.


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ronekinky
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Joined: 25.04.2008
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14.04.2014, 10:34

Fold flop? After c-betting we have ~50k left and the pot is almost 50k. With that spr im not folding in a 4max. If they have a set its just gg and on to the next mtt.


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letmewinplz8
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14.04.2014, 21:43

Originally posted by ronekinky
Fold flop? After c-betting we have ~50k left and the pot is almost 50k. With that spr im not folding in a 4max. If they have a set its just gg and on to the next mtt.

This is bad logic


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chenny8888
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15.04.2014, 06:28

I don't think we have the requisite equity, and thus we should fold. Pot odds should always be cross-checked against an estimation of equity, and if we don't have enough we should always be folding.


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TheRebuz
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18.04.2014, 12:05

Originally posted by AceSteph
Thank you all!

Since I thought that SB can have all AT, KT type of hands as well that he cannot fold I shoved. CO folded, SB called with T8s, but I got lucky. Next time I'll fold.

Next time make it biger 3bet preflop, especially in low stakes mtts oop biger 3 bet sizing cos people like to see flops


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centist
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Joined: 27.08.2009
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18.04.2014, 22:43

Bigger 3bet, but with this stack and these odds I would never fold here


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