AKo 4bet pot deep

Hi GingerKid

I think that he can even a few pot controlled hands there (probably more than his combos of AK) so I don't see a reason to be there necessarily.

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hi GingerKid

I think that he can even a few pot controlled hands there (probably more than his combos of AK) so I don't see a reason to be there necessarily.

Hi,

I was wondering why not cbet ourselves the flop and probably run some big bet bluffs turning a non A or K :spade:. He shouldn't have all combos of QQ since he 4bet us (maybe most players would just call 3bet IP deep?) so we are basically vs a capped range? If we are going to ever run a big bluff in a deep pot why not pick this A :spade:Kx to start with?

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Because i dont have initiative, and the board hits hard his range. Still we could bluff with c/r and it would be one of the best hands to bluff imo, but i rather exloitatively not bluff on boards which hits opponents range so hard.

So vs opponents that are able to fold Qx, AA, KK i could play for stacks with AsKo together with QQ, but i didnt want to gamble vs this guy, i didnt know what he does 400bb deep, but i think it should be fine vs most regs to c/r flop, overbet tur and shove river.
I think it is especially good vs cappt villians who would 4bet KK+ for value, and i would rep QQ so good. So i think i will start bluffing in future for 400bb and see if someone ever calls.

Originally posted by GingerKid
Because i dont have initiative, and the board hits hard his range. Still we could bluff with c/r and it would be one of the best hands to bluff imo, but i rather exloitatively not bluff on boards which hits opponents range so hard.

So vs opponents that are able to fold Qx, AA, KK i could play for stacks with AsKo together with QQ, but i didnt want to gamble vs this guy, i didnt know what he does 400bb deep, but i think it should be fine vs most regs to c/r flop, overbet tur and shove river.
I think it is especially good vs cappt villians who would 4bet KK+ for value, and i would rep QQ so good. So i think i will start bluffing in future for 400bb and see if someone ever calls.

Aff, I misread the hand so sorry. I kinda agree with your thoughts here, overall should be very easy for him to bluff us out since we are deep and OOP so I wouldnt count AK with a lot of showdown value and more like the top of our give up range?

For 100bb i would fold, but for so deep i call for pot odds and implied odds, plus i can call again or raise if
Turn comes spade, sometimes A or K is good for us.

Originally posted by GingerKid
For 100bb i would fold, but for so deep i call for pot odds and implied odds, plus i can call again or raise if
Turn comes spade, sometimes A or K is good for us.

That actually makes sense too If you are going to c/r the turn sometimes and put a lot of pressure.