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TheRebuz
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11.06.2014, 21:14

PokerStars - $150+$12|10/20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MRCOLLE (MP+2): 3,300 (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 12.88, 3Bet Preflop: 4.82, Hands: 610)
kaasje 1 (CO): 2,960 (VPIP: 15.82, PFR: 10.19, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 160)
theczar19 (BTN): 3,110 (VPIP: 21.73, PFR: 19.13, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 409)
SeeYouAnte18 (SB): 3,070 (VPIP: 16.05, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 409)
xerox801 (BB): 2,910 (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 14)
shinbunshi (UTG): 2,950 (VPIP: 16.39, PFR: 12.94, 3Bet Preflop: 5.93, Hands: 913)
but_flush (UTG+1): 2,760 (VPIP: 22.96, PFR: 18.26, 3Bet Preflop: 3.11, Hands: 893)
kieron1985 (MP): 3,000 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Re8uZ (MP+1): 3,000

SeeYouAnte18 posts SB 10, xerox801 posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Re8uZ has K♣ K♦

fold, but_flush raises to 60, fold, Re8uZ calls 60, fold, fold, fold, fold, xerox801 raises to 220, fold, Re8uZ raises to 600, xerox801 raises to 1,040, Re8uZ calls 440

Flop: (2,150, 2 players) Q♠ 7♥ 2♥
xerox801 bets 1,870 and is all-in, Re8uZ ????

thoughts? insta shove on flop


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Havlisak
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11.06.2014, 21:22

flat the 3bet


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_Anonymous_
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12.06.2014, 08:24

Hi,

I kind of like 4-betting after we flat pre-flop, since players usually does not give us credit having there KK.
Flop is easy call.
Likely you need to give him wider range than QQ+ pre-flop and sicne imo we´re top of our range it should be call.

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Havlisak
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12.06.2014, 16:46

Unless you want to stackoff the hand preflop, i dont see a reason to 4b, especially with this sizing. As played call imo, he can still have some overplayed JJ, AQ or AhKh


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TheRebuz
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12.06.2014, 23:45

Originally posted by Havlisak
Unless you want to stackoff the hand preflop, i dont see a reason to 4b, especially with this sizing. As played call imo, he can still have some overplayed JJ, AQ or AhKh

Yea the plan was to make him shove pre that why bigger size (usually i go for 475-500 here) to look weaker and induce cos imo is hard to imagine that he is puting us on kk/aa as played but the click back 5 bet oop with less then pot bet behind sxreams strenght imo, idk but i think randow will most likely shove or flat TT-QQ not clicking it back oop


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chenny8888
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13.06.2014, 08:13

Hi all,

I think preflop is marginal but it's fine. I think it's better to just call preflop though as we rep a bit too much strength positionally here, and we can obviously have aces in our range here.

Flop is a fold IMO, though I probably fold this spot too much.


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13.06.2014, 14:50

Originally posted by chenny8888

Flop is a fold IMO, though I probably fold this spot too much.

why? what if board was smth like Txx?

what if we just call pre and he bomb this flop we call or raise? what we do post on dry flops?


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14.06.2014, 06:56

Probably call most boards, and take it from there. Postflop on Txx or Jxx I'm not folding. Just Qxx cuts down the one hand we can beat, even though it's rare anyway.


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14.06.2014, 15:05

Originally posted by chenny8888
Probably call most boards, and take it from there. Postflop on Txx or Jxx I'm not folding. Just Qxx cuts down the one hand we can beat, even though it's rare anyway.

But on this flop he can have also AKhh AQhh JJ/TT that he ooverplayed and no A/K on flop he shove and maybe some crazy KQ/JQ/Axhh preflop clickaments and hiting good board

Imo we should just close our eyes. And call off any none Ahi board


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