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Coaching: Become unexPLOitable: 10 most common leaks

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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Engine room made it's magic and the first part is in the videos section. :)

Tomorrow is the coaching about some of the fears players might have in the tables. Couple of you have shared opinions and thoughts, I would like to hear from the rest of you guys. What do you fear or have feared? How did you overcome it? What might someone else fear?

Remember that fear is a powerful word, so it doesn't have to be an actual phobia or something. Just things we "fear".

See you all tomorrow!


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Regarding purely poker fears, alas I haven't had enough willpower to think about them much, but it seems that the biggest one is the fear of making a (perceived) mistake, especially if it gets exposed publicly and commented on.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Thanks Tony. Third course is just about to start now. :)


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

In three days we will have the last course. How can you excell yourself compared to other regs? Where do you get your edge against the top of the field at your games?

I would like to hear stories and thoughts about this. And on the other side, if you are having a tough time with the other regs, what might be the reason? Why haven't you risen above them yet?


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Sorry for not posting my approach to table selection earlier, I didn't have enough energy...

I don't do anything complicated, don't use 3rd party software (which might sound too expensive to liferoll nits, though I suppose it pays for itself very quickly already at PLO10). I just sort tables by the number of seated players (ascending) > waitlist length (asc.) > players per flop (desc.), never join a non-empty waitlist because they're usually filled by regs, which means that when someone quits the table, it will become too reg-infested as the quitter will usually be a busted recreational.

I've made it a habit to never close a table until I give every opponent a colour code (of the poker client itself), at least a provisional one (as few as 5 hands can distinguish a nit from a maniac) that can be refined later. It helps a lot in table selection because the HUD sometimes (on iPoker, always) fails to load until I play a hand at the table, which means that it doesn't help to decide whether to join a waitlist.

I join not all the waitlists in town, but only to as many tables as I want to load additionally (moreover, I try to observe them when I'm not involved in a hand, so that I'm armed by a bit of reads even before sitting in). Otherwise it becomes a pain when many invitations pop up at once and I have little time to decide which to accept, which to decline and which of the existing tables to close to give place to better ones. I first close bad tables (but as soon as they're spoilt, with little hesitation) and only then reselect an equal number of new ones.

Of course I prefer to hop onto non-full tables; apart from the obvious preference for having recreationals (followed by LAGs) as close to my right as possible and nits on the left, my approach includes joining tables with <=4 players (and not quitting most 4-player tables with 1 rec) so that the seat on my right is vacant (if a reg occupies it, I can just quit and reselect, but if a rec happens to sit there, it will be fantastic).

On networks with no waiting lists (Ongame, MPN), I certainly observe full tables I want to join and ninja-click at a seat as soon as it opens. SSPLO regs can't afford seating scripts anyway, so the competition for seats is quite level and honest.

All right, I've gone a bit offtopic... I find that the most effective method of beating regs 'at the table' is to go through hands vs them in the database and try to spot their leaks, first those of active regs with the most hands, as I face them more often and hence they affect my winrate more dramatically. Alas I'm not that proficient at taking notes while at the table, and it takes focus away; it's better to give hands a special mark 'Noteworthy' and then review them and write notes away from the tables.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Thanks Tony! How do others find their tables and seats? And I am interested to hear how do you beat regs outside the tables? What makes you guys (and girls) believe you become better as the other regs?


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

I think poker (and any other sport for that matter) is a game against rather the player him-/herself than opponents. As of now, I should think work on improving focus and not making mistakes, rather than outperforming regs; as Tendler would say, making the C-game stronger first before improving the A-game, so that the worm of game quality doesn't stretch too much.


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PerusJamppa
Joined: 18.01.2008

I have done some really basic analysis about regs in my games, although i don't spend too much time for doing that. There are plenty of good tables to choose from without worrying about other (decent) regs. If there are 2-3+ regs in the table i just don't go there.

Of course when we are talking about PLO5 even the regs aren't that good, but on the other hand, they are not really bad either. So playing against them is just waste of time and money. Usually they have some obvious leaks but in PLO5 you rarely play heads-up against them so there are quite few opportunities to even use that knowledge against them.

But overall they don't put their money in with too small equity, sometimes i take some small pots from them and sometimes they do too. If they understand even something about the game and are very aware about position, there are not that much value for me to play against them.
With huge rake in PLO5, basically only house wins.

Table selection is simple:
-High plrs/flop%
-Big pots
-As few regs as possible
-No crappy-stacks


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dan1802
Joined: 16.06.2012

i will check out some high vpip tables with low pots tomorrow.

results will follow

the tables with the high vpip had mostly high pots as well, so i made some easy money, but i will keep these tables in mind.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010
JackieHoo
Joined: 06.12.2011

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Video of the second part just came out: http://www.poker25.com/video/33908/

Hi,Kyyberi ,nice to know you thourgh this video. As there is no new PLO video in Chinese, I have to check English forun for updating.

I am studying PLO and play at PLO2 at pokerstar.
And I am not good at English ,and study the English video will be a little hard for me ,and I am very poor at maths. I will be headache for doing some caculation.

But I will try to understand your lesson.
Due to time difference ,I couldn't listen your live and video is good for study.

Now I have one question about the second video.
It's the time of 01:22:00 , you give one question
POT is USD5 , we have flush draw ,and villian bet $5, if we call turn ,how much we bet on the river for the equlity of 20%,right ? If I understand right , I have no idea how to calculate USD10 to bet on the river. How to get this figure?

Hope you could read it and help me out for this calculation.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

In simple manner, that 20% equity means that we willhit our draw one out of five times. So if we invest $5 we need to win five times that to justify our call. Which means $25. After the call there is $15 in the pot so we need to get $10 more after we hit our hand.


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