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chinaski01
Joined: 07.06.2007

Poker Stars, $33 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 5,721 (38.1 bb)
BB: 5,382 (35.9 bb)
UTG+1: 7,670 (51.1 bb)
UTG+2: 18,675 (124.5 bb)
MP1: 4,515 (30.1 bb)
MP2: 4,525 (30.2 bb)
Hero (MP3): 3,319 (22.1 bb)
CO: 1,150 (7.7 bb)
BTN: 5,336 (35.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J Q
4 folds, Hero raises to 349, 3 folds, BB calls 199

Flop: (773) A K 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 320, BB calls 320

Turn: (1,413) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 710, BB calls 710

River: (2,833) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,940 and is all-in, BB calls 1,940

Results:

Spoiler

6,713 pot
Final Board: A K 6 5 2
BB showed J A and won 6,713 (3,394 net)
Hero showed J Q and lost (-3,319 net)

hi,
BB 25/15/3b 8.7 48hands ( no specific reads).
Vs that V. u like 3barells on that board?
He could have only like AJ/AT ( AQ+ 3betts pre) and I dont have many bluffs ( mayby some JT/QT/QJcc) here or worst hands.
What about sizings F/T/R ? Mayby a little less Turrn to get ~75% River jam (more FE then?) ?


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belgianbeer
Joined: 17.05.2008

Hi,

IMO Ax is in his range on the flop or at least A8o+, A2s+.
Turn/ river some more dubble pairs, than just AJ-AT.

Here the flop is quie dry so when he flat on the flop you can be sure he has some Ax most of the time. And you should stop the investment there ! by making a 3barel you actually try to make him fold some weak Ax that you're not sur he will do.

Don't try to do the impossible without read ;)


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

We block AQ/AJ pretty well here (though AQ likely 3bets preflop), so I like a 3 barrel with all of our gutshots (turn folds out his Kx). @belgianbeer: think about it this way. We are in BB's shoes and we have A8/A7, and we post a hand on pokerstrategy.com facing this line, what would you reply him to do? :P.


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chinaski01
Joined: 07.06.2007

Ofc He could have weak Ax in his range. But duuno if he x/Call 2pair on the Turn and if he checks it on the River (i could x.back River most of the time ).
it looks like he had 1pair type hand mostly.

But mayby with ym sizings i gave him too good odds on the River?


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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

Im not bluffing off my stack in early stages in low stakes mtts. If we have a read that he is a good reg who can fold an ace on the river the i guess its fine. But most of these players just never fold.

Since you are so polarized when you shove river some people even hero off with a king.

Imo its just not worth it to spew in early stages like this. His stats are not convincing me he is reg either, looks a bit fishy. Probably calling you all the way with any king.. :)

But thats just me. We cant all play the same way.


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belgianbeer
Joined: 17.05.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
@belgianbeer: think about it this way. We are in BB's shoes and we have A8/A7, and we post a hand on pokerstrategy.com facing this line, what would you reply him to do? :P.

right I am agree, but the thing isn't what I would do but what vilain is able to...
personnely against a reg, I am ok w/ the 3barel, but on the average I wouldnt advice to do it too often against random...


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi,

Stats looked reggish enough. You are right, it is a bad line against a random especially when we bet enough on the turn to make Kx fold. But I'm happy doing this against a random reg.


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belgianbeer
Joined: 17.05.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi,

Stats looked reggish enough. You are right, it is a bad line against a random especially when we bet enough on the turn to make Kx fold. But I'm happy doing this against a random reg.

Fair enough ;)
need to improve my 3barel game plan so :P


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