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Omahasaurus
Joined: 04.01.2012

villain is an aggro fish

not sure if i can call the river vs him?

SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $51.35 (102.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $67.84 (135.7 bb)
CO: $66.50 (133 bb)
BTN: $42.60 (85.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A♠ T♣ 4♦ K♠
Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, SB folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($7.25) 3♠ T♥ 7♣ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $6.92, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.92

Turn: ($21.09) T♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20.14, Hero calls $20.14

River: ($61.37) 5♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $37.69 and is all-in, Hero ?


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

i dont like the x/c here otf, especially when he is aggro.
Your hand is not strong enough to fight aggression over multiple streets.
4way i might x/f or b/f. 3way i just b/f flop.

If he really is that aggro its a calldown imho, i can also see myself shoving turn with this spr, you dont really want to see a 689J on the river.

Edit:
I put it into odds oracle and vs a range of (77,33,T7,J89,896,T89,JT9,5468):50%:6 h
we are ahead 54%, given he plays 50% of hands in this spot preflop.
When he plays 30% of hands he is slightly favored and for 20% odds are in our favour again, weird. Seems like there are a lot of set combos in the 20-30% range :P.

This being said i like to shove Turn, we need close to 43% equity to show a profit, which we should have in any case+he might fold a hand which has some equity against us, which is never too bad when equities run so close.

Calling to let him bluff rivers doesnt have a lot of Value as he should only be semibluffing here at best, and not total airballing.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

do u convert ure hands with pt oder hm? some stats would be helpfull (dont be too lazy _biggrin: )

why did u c/c? i would bet for sure. we have some good turns we could continue.. every :spade: and JTQK okay a J is not the best card..

as played i would call flop for the same reason

Turn: just shove. as played i would call any river (if he is a speewtard)

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Omahasaurus
Joined: 04.01.2012

No useful stats, 80/40 over 40 hands :)

Yea, I'd normally cbet Otf but was tilted so my game was off :f_mad:


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

as played jam turn, he rarely b/f after he pots


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

yeah cbet flop. Turn jam is ok i guess, his pot is probably weaker than a smaller bet so you could be ahead here, esp vs him.

Fold river as played.

Regards,

Skod


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

Originally posted by Skodljivec
Hi,

yeah cbet flop. Turn jam is ok i guess, his pot is probably weaker than a smaller bet so you could be ahead here, esp vs him.

Fold river as played.

Regards,

Skod

fold river against an aggro fisch?

okay what does mean aggro fisch. if we have a note that he is aggro pre and then slow down seems okay to fold otr. but honestly if i have a note or see that he is a speewtard post and pre i would never fold otr

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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

yeah i prob still fold. Unless your gut and ingame dynamics say to call. In that case i call.

Regards,

Skod


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Omahasaurus
Joined: 04.01.2012

Originally posted by Skodljivec
Hi,

yeah cbet flop. Turn jam is ok i guess, his pot is probably weaker than a smaller bet so you could be ahead here, esp vs him.

Fold river as played.

Regards,

Skod

if his turn pot is weaker than a smaller bet and you said turn jam is ok, dont we wanna let him keep bluffing otr?


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

Originally posted by Suhepxm

Calling to let him bluff rivers doesnt have a lot of Value as he should only be semibluffing here at best, and not total airballing.

When he is bluffing he is almost always semibluffing, because the flop was 4way!

That means he will always have a decent amount of equity, which we let him realise if we just call.

Furthermore he can play rivers perfectly, he can even decide to shutdown with his bluffs and only vbet his made/improved hands. We would then make quite a big mistake by calling down any river.


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Omahasaurus
Joined: 04.01.2012

Originally posted by Suhepxm

Originally posted by Suhepxm

Calling to let him bluff rivers doesnt have a lot of Value as he should only be semibluffing here at best, and not total airballing.

When he is bluffing he is almost always semibluffing, because the flop was 4way!

That means he will always have a decent amount of equity, which we let him realise if we just call.

Furthermore he can play rivers perfectly, he can even decide to shutdown with his bluffs and only vbet his made/improved hands. We would then make quite a big mistake by calling down any river.

K ty :)


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by Suhepxm

Originally posted by Suhepxm

Calling to let him bluff rivers doesnt have a lot of Value as he should only be semibluffing here at best, and not total airballing.

When he is bluffing he is almost always semibluffing, because the flop was 4way!

That means he will always have a decent amount of equity, which we let him realise if we just call.

Furthermore he can play rivers perfectly, he can even decide to shutdown with his bluffs and only vbet his made/improved hands. We would then make quite a big mistake by calling down any river.

Very nice post.

Regards,

Skod


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