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Turn mid DP, ovp + FD K, mw

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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

iPoker - €1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): €244.00
MP: €143.44 (VPIP: 19.75, PFR: 8.59, 3Bet Preflop: 1.65, Hands: 8,167)
CO: €84.57 (VPIP: 23.03, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 2.84, Hands: 367)
BTN: €145.15 (VPIP: 39.12, PFR: 32.33, 3Bet Preflop: 13.49, Hands: 700)
SB: €51.10 (VPIP: 48.03, PFR: 4.61, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 156)
BB: €228.60 (VPIP: 48.63, PFR: 35.26, 3Bet Preflop: 23.62, Hands: 338)

SB posts SB €0.50, BB posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €1.50) Hero has 3♥ K♦ 9♦ K♣

Hero raises to €2.00, MP calls €2.00, fold, BTN raises to €9.50, SB calls €9.00, fold, Hero calls €7.50, MP calls €7.50

Flop: (€39.00, 4 players) 8♦ 9♠ 2♦
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: (€39.00, 4 players) 3♣
SB checks, Hero bets €29.00, MP raises to €125.00, fold, SB calls €41.60, Hero raises to €234.50 and is all-in, MP calls €8.94

Spoiler

River: (€348.48, 3 players) 4♣

Hero shows 3♥ K♦ 9♦ K♣ (Two Pair, Nines and Threes) (Pre 39%, Flop 8%, Turn 14%)
MP shows 2♠ 2♥ 7♥ 7♠ (Three of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 30%, Flop 61%, Turn 69%)
SB shows 9♣ A♦ 7♣ 7♦ (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 31%, Flop 31%, Turn 17%)
Hero wins €0.00
MP wins €345.48

Préflop

opr from UTG with KKxx

When BU 3bet, I think about 4bet/fold, cause I saw he 3bet lots when I minopr UTG.

here it's a squeeze vs 3 players.
finally I decided to just call, play a multiway and setmine.

Flop

what would be your plan here ?

mine was to c/r against a BU cbet.
I don't know if he's going to cbet very often, because the board is ultradrawy.

But he's quite aggro and with the position maybe can often cbet since he has a correct draw (oesd, wrap) or bigger (NFD, combo).

Ye my plan was to c/r here.
If he got AAxx + NFD, that's the game.
In the 4 players in the spot, if someone flopped a set, I've still good equity.

Vs combo draws who would gamble (wrap + FD, oesd + FD), my ovp still have value, and my FD K could often be dominating hands like TQJx + FD J/Q etc...

Turn

Hit DP, still this ovp and FD K.

Decided to bet for value/protection obv.

when MP raises...
fuuuuuuuu he's basically a tight player, but vs me I saw him very often raising or c/raising turns last sessions.

he knows that I could lead quite light (drawing, crap DP etc...) here and could think that he had FE if he shoves here.

I'm not saying that he's shoving with air.
Maybe he flopped a set that was c/raising flop too and missed.
But he can do it with big draws too.

this board is so drawy that I'm seeing far more draws than big made hands here.

So I decided to move in. Having decent equity vs low sets ( :diamond:, K, 9 maybe), and crushing combo draws.


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dylboi011
Joined: 20.04.2010

hi sucks a bit we are like 140bbs but folding does feel a bit weak here i would probably get it in as well, having said that villains stats are v nitty so im not so sure, and we have to take in the SB also all in for half a stack.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

with so much money in the pot there is no going back here. I think either our 2 pair or our fd should be best often enough that this is indeed a quite clear stackoff.

However i see now that villain is very nitty, so in this case puke folding might be prefered, as he will probably call all of his draws and raise sets here only. I mean it's still close, but i think it's a fold.

Regards,

Skod


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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

ok thx, and flop what would be your plan ? (SB and BB are some stationfish postflop

Mine was :
- if BU cbet and others players fold -> c/r (he wouldn't cbet super light here. I'm fucked if he gets AAxx+NFD. But he easily could have some rundown that hit/combo this flop, and I'm beating his eventually FD). ok or spewy ?
- if BU cbet and SB or BB call -> c/r (same, and SB/BB big stations postflop that could call oesd, weak FD, FD+p etc...)
- if BU cbet and SB or BB c/r -> fold (often set, many cases I have not so good equity, and I'm totally crushed if my FD is dominated)
- if MP dkbet -> fold (he's a tight player, as deep as me, and wouldn't move it without big hand, which his often way ahead me. typically sets)


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

hey skod what do u think about an donk otf? its out of question?


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

dont like donking here, in spots like this u want to donk really polarized (maybe not even polarized but only for value since its 4way :P).

What do you achieve here by donking? You are building a pot with a mediocre hand out of position, your flush wont be good too often when you get called 4way.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

i was just thinking about it because like op said villian will not often cb this flop. but yeah dunno maybe not the best idea..


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

no don't donk this. Just don't. It's the hand you don't want to donk here cause you don't know which outs are clean.

OsCardozo;

I think otf if there's action mw i think folding is actually the best play regardless of villain, esp if you are deep. I mean people will check mediocre hands 4way. BU's bet here looks so heavy on sets and nfd's i would make a tight fold.

Regards,

Skod


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