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100 TPTK+NFD+GS turn c/r

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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 48.92 BB (VPIP: 31.80, PFR: 5.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.75, Hands: 526)
BTN: 115.49 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 12.32, 3Bet Preflop: 4.41, Hands: 3,575)
Hero (SB): 105.39 BB
BB: 108.65 BB (VPIP: 18.90, PFR: 11.42, 3Bet Preflop: 2.48, Hands: 258)

Villain imthesky, fold to cbet 47, raise cbet 23. AF 3 3 2.
- float 755r, pot turn T, river A check back w/ air
- btn open, no cbet TT7r, fold to turn bet

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ K♣ 6♥ 5♠

fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 2♦ 4♠ K♦
Hero bets 4 BB, fold, BTN raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (38 BB, 2 players) 9♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 36.5 BB, Hero raises to 87.39 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 50.89 BB
I'm experimenting a bit with turn-c/r in spots where I can make villain fold decent equity. His flop raise doesn't have to be uber strong, he could do this with bare draws even or hands which beat my hand but can't really get it in if c/r'ed. Since he pots the turn I think the jam might be a bit ambitious as the FE is reduced significantly. Alternative would be to c/c and bluff diamonds.


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

i think your hand is a bit too marginal for leading. You will get a lot of folds from bb, but if BU is a loose opener he will have tons of low hands to float with.

I like leading flop with 65+bdfd, or QJT+bdfd as bluff, but your hand is strong enough to x/c imho.

Once he pots turn you never ever have FE in this spot, he is always going with his hand.

I dont like calling and bluffing Rivers because, you have a K in your hand, which removes plenty of his made hand combinations and makes the nfd+gs, pair+fd, combodraw etc part if his range bigger! So there are actually plenty of :D combinations he has.

All in all i think shoving is close but probably okay, not because we make him fold his equity share, but because he may play AK:d:d, K4xx like this.

(Someone should put this into odds oracle imho)

ah btw, standard defend for you pre?. i know he is only minraising, but you are in sandwich... In BB i would probably defend, but in SB its a fold for me, even against a mr.


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

yeah i never fold this pre, i think i have a large enough edge post to make up for the small disadvantage my hand has, even OOP. folding to 3x usually though.

good point about the :diamond: bluff, thanks.
not sure about the lead, i check this or lead maybe 50/50, interested to hear other opinions.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

interesting hand. in generell i think its okay to lead but here given ure opponent i think c/c and ev turn is a litte bit better.

As played i like the c/shove.

Once he pots turn you never ever have FE in this spot, he is always going with his hand.

@suhepxm: Had someone yesterday on a table how pots fold turn twice against me and in another hand against a other good reg. so never say never

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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

yeah but i guess it was not with an spr of 2?!


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

it was even less than 2!


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

Originally posted by Suhepxm
yeah but i guess it was not with an spr of 2?!

btw here is the hand

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PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 266.4 BB (VPIP: 32.22, PFR: 21.36, 3Bet Preflop: 4.83, Hands: 2,011)
UTG: 275.14 BB (VPIP: 51.01, PFR: 31.31, 3Bet Preflop: 13.54, Hands: 207)
CO: 110.44 BB (VPIP: 30.12, PFR: 23.62, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 515)
Hero (BTN): 104.85 BB
SB: 250.37 BB (VPIP: 57.83, PFR: 39.76, 3Bet Preflop: 24.14, Hands: 88)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7♦ 4♦ A♥ J♥

UTG raises to 2.8 BB, CO raises to 9.9 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7.1 BB

Flop: (21.3 BB, 2 players) J♣ 4♥ 3♥
UTG bets 17.52 BB, CO calls 17.52 BB

Turn: (56.34 BB, 2 players) 6♠
UTG bets 49.46 BB, CO raises to 83.02 BB and is all-in, fold,


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

i think we often enough have actually the best hand ott to justify a c/jam. I like the play.

Regards,

Skod


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