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randombob
Joined: 18.05.2014

Same villian as the other thread - Villian had been 3betting quite a lot and when it went to showdown he always had a pair, 88, 99, JJ, KK

Can I 4bet fold here or best just to get it in?

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $6.59 (65.9 bb)
UTG: $9.56 (95.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.35 (103.5 bb)
CO: $7.96 (79.6 bb)
BTN: $36.90 (369 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.26, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.72, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.78, BTN raises to $6.54, Hero raises to $10.35, BTN calls $3.81

Flop: ($20.85) K 8 J (2 players)
Turn: ($20.85) 2 (2 players)
River: ($20.85) A (2 players)

Results:

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$20.85 pot ($1.04 rake)
Final Board: K 8 J 2 A
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$10.35 net)
BTN showed K K and won $19.81 ($9.46 net)


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apollo540419
Joined: 12.03.2011

At 6-max table, QQ is enough for shoving. Players shove with hands like TT+, AK. In long term, it is profitable. You could adjust in a very special situation, such as facing a rock.


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ferrari1f
Joined: 06.11.2013

I think you could make an argument for folding pre-flop here. Not so sure he would do this with AK all that often... People tend to think they do, but in reality, and please check your database, they just have it. Sometimes we talk ourselves into cooler spots, but you can get away. I would also 4 bet to only 2.25 or something like that. Reality is that people just don't 5 bet to 6.54 without a hand worse than QQ. Think about it for a second. What could he have? Most bad regulars / bad players, will just jam AK and JJ/QQ and 5 bet with KK and AA. Unless you do have history with this guy, it's a fold pre-flop. QQ is a very strong hand, but in general, people are not 5 betting with anything worse than QQ. At best you're flipping, more often you're just crushed and coolering yourself. Getting away from these spots can have a huge boost to your winrate. And we're talking about 10 NL. At some higher stakes, it's just so standard to get it in against most people since the aggression is so much higher.


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