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100NL: river call, flush over flush

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** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (IPoker)
€100.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 23, 02:40:23 ET 2014
Table Speed Holdem 5 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €178.57 EUR ) - VPIP: 45, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 20
Seat 5: Hero ( €129.80 EUR ) - VPIP: 31, PFR: 23, 3B: 8, AF: 1.7, Hands: 179
Seat 6: Player6 ( €100.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 24, 3B: 13, AF: 5.0, Hands: 17
Seat 8: Player8 ( €201.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 31
Seat 10: Player10 ( €103.34 EUR ) - VPIP: 45, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 20
Player10 posts small blind [€0.50 EUR].
Player1 posts big blind [€1.00 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7h 9h ]
Hero raises [€2.00 EUR]
Player6 folds
Player8 calls [€2.00 EUR]
Player10 folds
Player1 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 5h, 6h ]
Hero bets [€4.00 EUR]
Player8 calls [€4.00 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
Hero bets [€8.50 EUR]
Player8 calls [€8.50 EUR]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
Hero bets [€20.00 EUR]
Player8 raises [€66.00 EUR]
Hero calls [€46.00 EUR]
Player8 wins €159.50 EUR from main pot
Player8 shows [8h, Ah ]

Do you think my river call is worst?
I called because I though it was possible that he has straight or bluff,
and maybe, this was main reason, I did not want to muck flush!

But, after this hand,
I thought BTN's turn call means that BTN had flush or had Ah.
However, if he had only Ah, I think BTN wouldn't raise at river.

So, now I thought river call was very bad.
Do you give me your opinion?


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hoangpv
Joined: 22.07.2012

Clearly bad Call.

He call PF >>> Axs, AQ,KQ,QTs,KJs,67s+,22-TT
He call F cbet 2/3PS with KQ,KhJh,QhJh,QsJs,JhTh,QsTs,Axh, 78s. i think he will raise w 56,55,66, AQ to protect.
He call Turn cbet 2/3PS >>> Flush J-A high, 2 pair KQ
River You only win 2pair KQ. Check/call river is better.


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hoangpv:

Thank you very much for your comment.
I understand how to narrow opponent's hand range through this practical example.
I tend to regard opponents is bluffing if I have good second best hand.
Also, I learned that there is a option X/C.
If I cannot get value form opponent's hand,
I should X/C to catch bluff.
Even if I have flush,
I don't need to bet all the time.

Thank you very much!


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Probably fine to bet/fold river unless villain has much of a bluff-raising range on river.
This does not automatically mean x/c is a better option because it still depends on villain propensity to either bluff or value/bet worse. Vs some opponents it's actually ok to x/f.


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w34z3l:

Thank you my teacher in my video!
Yes I understand that we need not to stick to x/c.
We select best option which minimize expect value.
In this case,
since I haven't encounter bluff-raising,
I should block bet on the river.
And I need to have courage to fold.

I think for my first step,
I need to get used to enumerate all hands which he might have
in order to select best option.


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