Well that said he is still turning his hand into a bluff on the turn, and will only get called by hands that have him beat (for now). The turnplay would be check/call then in my opinion to give villain the chance to bluff here with weaker hands instead of isolating myself against hands that are ahead.
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Well this is my reasoning.
FLOP
1-In a multi-way pot the aggressor is less likely to C-Bet.
2-If he C-Bets I can check-raise but if he calls the check-raise what do I do with a bad turn card like the one that hit.
a)-Do I now check-fold? pot odds will not be there to continue (We discussed this 2 hands ago)
b)-check-call and hope I complete my full-house out of position and then hope I get paid off so I can add in the implied odds to justify making this play (We discussed this 2 hands ago)
3-If he doesn't C-Bet then the pot never gets big enough to force anyone fold on a pot sized turn bet and the turn will most likely put another draw on the board.
4-Based on this my best action is to bet pot on the flop.
Turn.
1-The pre-flop raiser called my donk bet so now we must narrow his hand down
a-He has either A:s -A-x-x and one of the x-cards can also be a ♠ making his hand A:s x:s A-x
b-A connecting hand like A-K-Q-J, J-10-9-9, etc; etc;
1-If I check;
a)- and he checks back he probably made his straight and I will now have to have the board par to win
b)-If I check and he bets he has now made his flush and I will not have the pot odds to call (we discussed this 2 hands ago)
2-By betting pot on the turn I am conveying/representing/forcing the following;
a)-All made turn straights will now fold as I have now represented that my flop bet was on a flush draw that got there
b)-All non nut flushes will have a hard time calling
c)-If he has flopped a smaller set he will be unknowingly getting his money in with a 1 outer
3-If he calls my pot turn bet then he most likely has me beat and I will have at most 10 outs to get there.
And the hand now plays the exact same as
1-I check raised the flop and he called the check-raise
2-I checked the turn after betting the flop and he makes a pot turn bet which I would then have to put all my chips in to call.
By doing it this way I have given him lots of reasons to fold his made straight and non-nut made flush hands.
NOTE After the flop my mind was made up to see the hand to the end with all my chips in play. My flopped set has turned into a SEMI-BLUFF on the turn with 10 outs if he called. ***
This is why this is a much superior play and will work more times then it fails and we are looking for optimum plays, not necessarily plays that are results orientated. LEVEL 2 THINKING
Thank you for joining in the discussion Perusjamppa.
I wish more people would comment.
Discussions on how to play hands are always beneficial to all involved as there are many ways to dissect and play a hand. Input is good
Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
2-If he C-Bets I can check-raise but if he calls the check-raise what do I do with a bad turn card like the one that hit.
If villain cBets 1/2+ pot and you pot it, there are only few (if any) dollars left in stack, so it really doesn't matter what the turn card is. 
Turn
My line on the turn would be checking.
Sure it's all about what we think villain's range is and what he is going to do with it, but here are my arguments:
Imo majority of his calling range otf is FDs. It's very risky draw straights when there are also a flushdraw on the table. With some good wrap, it's possible.
Against your donking range (sets and big draws) with plain straightdraw he have ~25% equity at worst. (Edited)
But at this point we also have to travel back in time all the way to the pre-flop play.
When you only limp behind, if i were this villain i would assume that you don't have like any AsJsT* -combos, so most (if not all) of your donking range on the flop is sets.
Disclaimer: I have no idea how things are in 8-max and i also don't have any knowledge about your tendencies. So if people generally (you included ofc) are limping behind with such a strong hands like that, my reasoning can flush down the toilet. ♦
That been said, i would never fold my straights or flushes on the turn when you bet. Also if you check, i would bet 100/100.
Another thing is that this is PLO25, so with less than pot behind i wouldn't expect to having too much FE to run floating bluff. Not to mention that there are still one player left to act behind me on the flop.
One other thing is that if he called flop with FD, i think he just can't fold it now when it completes. Or at least he shouldn't. 
Like I said it depends a lot on his stats and your stats. That said again to the check-raise play. I mentioned that it might only be an option if he has a decent cbet value in multi way pots and would allow you to almost go alone or even go alone (depending on his betsize) on the flop. -> which would be great, and since you have the nuts at the moment you wouldn't be mad if all the others got broke too, you are ahead at the moment. Only KsJsxx hands are slightly favourite against your set.
On the turn, like said by me and now by Perusjamppa too a check is your best play because he will bluff with hands that you have beat already giving you more money.
Ofc he would turn his straights into a bluff too BUT in my opinion on PLO25 (if I recall that's the limit you played in this hand) people often don't fold straights on flush boards anyway. (again depending on his stats a lot here to determine if he is a regular or a recreational player).
So that said, like played your flop play might be the best play because the chances of him cbetting are very low. But your turn play is defenitly not even on the long run you isolate yourself against his nutrange which is ahead at the moment and don't give him the chance to bluff shove all his other crap hands.
Additional on the long run:
If you donkbet flop - check turn with sets/flushes/straights - people will give you more credit after that line -> because they saw you checking the nuts to induce some times, so they will less likely try to bluff in those spots which will lead to free river cards for you (and you might sometimes need them). If you play donkbet flop - shove turn with straights, sets, flushes people will start to figure out that if you donk flop - check turn you are holding a week hand and start to bluff you of it.
So I think in terms of perfect play and balancing check (raise) turn would be the best play in my opinion.
Originally posted by RaucheCh1987
Additional on the long run:
If you donkbet flop - check turn with sets/flushes/straights - people will give you more credit after that line -> because they saw you checking the nuts to induce some times, so they will less likely try to bluff in those spots which will lead to free river cards for you (and you might sometimes need them). If you play donkbet flop - shove turn with straights, sets, flushes people will start to figure out that if you donk flop - check turn you are holding a week hand and start to bluff you of it.
This balancing -question made me think. Should we actually even have donk bet -> donk shove turn -line when draws completes?
When we donk with sets, it's most likely that villain calls with draw, so usually we are behind. -> No reason to bet.
When we donk with monster draw, why should we bet the turn? Ok, sometimes people will just call the flop with set hoping for safe turn. Against those hands we should bet again for protection, but against just one bet i think this only call -method is more uncommon. Of course when stacks get deeper and deeper SPR steps in and they can't shove naked set.
But actually when they call the flop, their range is imo again, mostly draws. So when we check, they bet their weaker straights/flushes to get value from set.
Occasionally they could have something like top2 and they call to see what happens on the turn, but against four outs i don't think that we need too much protection.
If we choose to balance our range by donking flop and donk shove even this kind of turn, our reasonable range QQxx/99xx/AsJsT/AsKsJT is not doing very well against villain's reasonable KJTx/AsBsBB/JT98 raise pre, calling flop range. Actually we're behind ~25-75. 
Thank you for all the input. It is greatly appreciated
1-I donk bet the flop because we are 3-handed; as much to protect my hand by shortening the field as it is to win it right there. If the hand were heads-up I would probably go for a check-raise.
2-The turn is where I feel you guys are missing a valuable point.
When we play we are taught to bet so hands that are weaker then ours will pay us off, unless we are bluffing of course.
My turn bet is designed to get hands that are better then mine to fold.
I am 100% certain all made straights will fold to my turn bet.
I am also fairly confident small made flushes will have a hard time finding a call. They may of course or they may not.
My bet is designed to polarize his hand. I feel only nut or near nut flushes can call that bet. Nothing else.
When he calls my flop bet, he is playing a wait-and-see game as he has position.
I doubt very much he will have a hand that missed the turn completely after having called the donk bet and bluff if I check. He has to have hit something.
If there is anything I learned while playing the $10,000 buy-in W.P.T. event and talking to my friend Gavin Smith all of day one when we were sitting beside each other (shameless name dropping I know but I am old and living in the past ) the one thing that is common among the elite players is they do not wait for winning hands to win chips. They go out and earn them by plays such as the one I made. Such plays lose also and when they do the person making them looks like a donk but I digress.
Also by checking I am telling him what I have and that the flush is a scare card. Now he can check behind and if the river is save he can either check his straight or if he has the CAHOONAS he can bet his straight for value.
This is how I read the hand.
As a side note I also play my nut flush draws the exact same way.
This is why I love poker and talking about it. There is no right way or wrong way to play a hand. There are optimal plays that lose and there are inside straight draws that win the WSOP main event. See Stu Unger vrs Doyle Brunson around 1980 give or take a year.
Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
When we play we are taught to bet so hands that are weaker then ours will pay us off, unless we are bluffing of course.
And that's the point I'm at... I believe you really just isolate yourself against the flush. It all depends a lot on villain stats, but I've seen people call AllIns with straights on flush or paired board on PLO25, so you miss the two pair idiots who tought you where just trying to steal the pot.
Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
When he calls my flop bet, he is playing a wait-and-see game as he has position.
I doubt very much he will have a hand that missed the turn completely after having called the donk bet and bluff if I check.
Again it would be nice to know some stats. But that's my point if he floats from time to time or has a high turn aggression value he will since the turn check looks like...
...omg there is a flush my straightdraw/two pair/set or even total bluff is now worthless. Which means if he has nothing or not a strong hand the only way to win the pot now is to bet. If he is a good player and also tihnks you are he might bet close to half pot size with air and value hands. If he thinks you are a fish he will bet very polarized and just bet very small with his bluffs and strong with his value hands.
You'd have the odds you need to call anyway, and ofc might sometimes lose against straights, but I see you ahead more often in this spot, and just say that I think you missed some value on the turn.
If you play (like you said) your nutflush also like this it's good in my opinion, but how do you play your monster straight draws there, or any other hand with decent value?
In the end -> like you said, there are more ways to make profit, and it's for sure not a huge mistake if it is any at all to shove the turn. Perhaps you can post the hand in the evaluation section to see what the "pros" have to say.
O.K. deal
If I can figure out how to do that I will post the hand for the pros to dissect
Update.
I have posted the hand here for analysis
Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
O.K. deal
...
I have posted the hand here for analysis
I'm a bit excited to see what others will say 
Just to catch up a bit.
I played an Omaha H-lo $4.40 buy-in slow blind structure last night and finished 32nd out of 250+ runners with the top 27 getting paid. I didn't pick up 1 decent hand for the last hour I was in the tournament before getting knocked out just before the money.
I ran the exact same way in an Omaha Hi cash game at the same time and dropped $25 there as well to finish the day down -$30
I played my favorite Omaha Hi-Lo $2.20 buy-in 3x turbo with re-buys and add-on this morning. After getting it all-in just before the add-on I once again disconnected and didn't re-connect until I was timed out and did not get a chance to re-buy or add-on. This is starting to bug me. I never disconnect an other time, only in this tournament and always at the most inopportune time as well. What is going on?
I was so pissed I fired up 6 tables of Omaha Hi cash at the same time. I could keep up but it took all my concentration and these are full-ring tables to boot. I know I'm old but for the life of me I don't know how the young players can play 24 tables and have their A-game at the same time.
Here are 2 standard, nothing spectacular hands from this session.
In this first hand I figured I got out with a minimum loss after making a very loose call pre-flop because I had position on the pre-flop raiser. If you are going to play loose then you better be able to, as Phil "cry baby" Hellmuth would say, Dodge Bullets Baby.
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$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG HappyToFold ($51.97) 104bb
CO TheMarxBros3 ($80.89) 162bb
BTN Reraise41 ($50.98) 102bb
SB i1611 ($27.58) 55bb
BB Stollinho ($47.41) 95bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) TheMarxBros3 is CO 10:diamond: 5♠ A♥ Q♥
HappyToFold raises to $1.50, TheMarxBros3 calls $1.50, Reraise41 calls $1.50, 1 fold, Stollinho calls $1
Main Pot : ($6.25)
HappyToFold: +$1.14 EV (42.30%)
TheMarxBros3: +$2.11 EV (57.70%)
Flop: 10:spade: 10:heart: K♣ ($6.25, 4 players)
Stollinho checks, HappyToFold checks, TheMarxBros3 bets $2.98, 1 fold, Stollinho folds, HappyToFold calls $2.98
Main Pot : ($12.21)
HappyToFold: +$1.04 EV (32.90%)
TheMarxBros3: +$5.21 EV (67.10%)
Turn: 6♠ ($12.21, 2 players)
HappyToFold checks, TheMarxBros3 checks
Main Pot : ($12.21)
HappyToFold: +$10.39 EV (85.10%)
TheMarxBros3: +$1.82 EV (14.90%)
River: 7♣ ($12.21, 2 players)
HappyToFold checks, TheMarxBros3 checks
Main Pot : ($12.21)
HappyToFold: +$12.21 EV (100.00%)
TheMarxBros3: +$0.00 EV (0.00%)
Final Pot: $12.21
HappyToFold shows a full house, Tens full of Sixes
6♥ 9♦ 8♥ 10:club:
TheMarxBros3 shows
10:diamond: 5♠ A♥ Q♥
HappyToFold wins $11.66 (net +$7.18)
Reraise41 lost $1.50
Stollinho lost $1.50
TheMarxBros3 lost $4.48
Stars really likes to give you a rush for your money.
I figured I was done once the flop came.
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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG bonsaiooo ($26.32) 105bb
UTG+1 El Principeh ($15.58) 62bb
MP1 sakis1951 ($20.82) 83bb
MP2 TheMarxBros3 ($47.62) 190bb
CO BLACKMAMB479 ($13.84) 55bb
BTN GoodEdvard ($16.05) 64bb
SB canthobb ($14.65) 59bb
BB jnettastar ($20.40) 82bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) TheMarxBros3 is MP2 K♣ A♠ A♥ 10:diamond:
2 folds, sakis1951 raises to $0.50, TheMarxBros3 raises to $1.85, BLACKMAMB479 calls $1.85, 2 folds, jnettastar raises to $8, sakis1951 folds, TheMarxBros3 raises to $26.45, BLACKMAMB479 folds, jnettastar goes all-in $12.40
Main Pot : ($43.25)
jnettastar: -$5.44 EV (34.60%)
TheMarxBros3: +$7.89 EV (65.40%)
Side Pot #1 : ($6.05)
TheMarxBros3: +$0.00 EV (100.00%)
Flop: 5♣ J♦ Q♥ ($43.25, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Main Pot : ($43.25)
jnettastar: +$26.30 EV (60.80%)
TheMarxBros3: +$16.95 EV (39.20%)
Side Pot #1 : ($6.05)
TheMarxBros3: +$6.05 EV (100.00%)
Turn: Q♦ ($43.25, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Main Pot : ($43.25)
jnettastar: +$38.93 EV (90.00%)
TheMarxBros3: +$4.33 EV (10.00%)
Side Pot #1 : ($6.05)
TheMarxBros3: +$6.05 EV (100.00%)
River: A♣ ($43.25, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Main Pot : ($43.25)
jnettastar: +$0.00 EV (0.00%)
TheMarxBros3: +$43.25 EV (100.00%)
Side Pot #1 : ($6.05)
TheMarxBros3: +$6.05 EV (100.00%)
Final Pot: $43.25
TheMarxBros3 shows a full house, Aces full of Queens
K♣ A♠ A♥ 10:diamond:
jnettastar shows a full house, Fives full of Queens
9♠ J♠ 5♦ 5♠
TheMarxBros3 wins $47.46 (net +$21.01)
BLACKMAMB479 lost $1.85
jnettastar lost $20.40
sakis1951 lost $0.50
Session---3 hours---4-6 tables---402 hands
Profit---$53
Got back my money from last night, my tournament fee and re-buys from this morning and a small profit as well.
I used to play 4 PLO25-50 zoom tables same time which equals around 16 normals tables -> the trick is very simple... increase the number of table slowly...
There was actually a news article about that a few days/weeks ago. In the article the compared it with running... if you are used to run 5km you can't run a marathon the next day, you have to work on it, and increase your distance step by step and the same rule counts for increasing the number of tables you play.
It's actually a mental issue... once you are used to your one or two tables most of your game decisions don't use your brain anymore the become "instintcs"... so when you increase the number of tables you increase the situations where you have to use your brain (spots your brain is not used to at the moment)...
regarding the disconnects -> you might open a ticket PS might refund you... and no matter how big you bankroll is -> you never refuse free money...
Originally posted by RaucheCh1987
I used to play 4 PLO25-50 zoom tables same time which equals around 16 normals tables -> the trick is very simple... increase the number of table slowly...There was actually a news article about that a few days/weeks ago. In the article the compared it with running... if you are used to run 5km you can't run a marathon the next day, you have to work on it, and increase your distance step by step and the same rule counts for increasing the number of tables you play.
It's actually a mental issue... once you are used to your one or two tables most of your game decisions don't use your brain anymore the become "instintcs"... so when you increase the number of tables you increase the situations where you have to use your brain (spots your brain is not used to at the moment)...
regarding the disconnects -> you might open a ticket PS might refund you... and no matter how big you bankroll is -> you never refuse free money...
I have never asked for/nor received compensation for any disconnect issues I have had on any site I have played. No will I. As much as disconnecting sucks, I consider it a part of on-line play.
I am an old guy who is used to playing 2 to 3 tables. My A-game tends to suffer when I play more. This time it didn't so for me that was an accomplishment, the firing up and grinding 6 tables at once. I doubt in the future I will play that many again but you never know.
I much prefer live, it's slow pace, and the camaraderie and socializing you get. Even the big buy-in tournaments are all about that until the hand is dealt. You guys can have the extreme aspects of on-line and I will happily plod along. I'm the tortoise in this race and we all know where he finished.
This morning I played my favorite 3x-turbo Omaha Hi-Lo as I always do on Saturday and Sunday mornings.
When I play this my strategy is very simple because of the re-buy and 30,000 chip add-on you do after 1.5 hours.
Before the add-on I squeeze the living daylights out of my hands. My whole purpose before the add-on is to survive and re-buy as infrequently as possible. I always re-buy whenever I have to until the add-on, so I play as tight as possible, to the point of letting the antes eat my stack.
After the re-buy which is equivalent to 10 big blinds (30,000 chips blinds 1,500-3,000) I then start to play.
This has always been my strategy and so far it seems to work out for me. I have had a 1st (chopped with 2nd), an outright 2nd, a 6th, and numerous other cashes while using this strategy.
This morning at one point after the add-on I was 79th with 79 left out of the 416 that started with 45 getting paid.
I re-bought 5x and added-on for an investment of $14.20
I finished 24th for a prize of $30.57
There is much more poker to be played today and I will update later.
I just noticed I still have that round 2 free-roll ticket from the round 1 free-roll I played when I was running bad in order to straighten out my MTT game. I may have to use that today as they are playing Omaha this time.
And last but not least, the cash games await. ♦
I never got a chance to play after my post this morning as my wife and granddaughter pointed out to me that is was in my best interest to take them shopping. Being outvoted shopping we went. I will have to use that round 2 ticket at a later date.
I managed to play a few hands of cash after we got back. Here is the only interesting one in this session.
It pays to play loose at times.
I flopped the world and my opponent couldn't get away from his flopped set. Fortunately he missed his 2 outs and I won a nice little pot.
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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG JD Bhaiya ($13.74) 55bb
UTG+1 northbynorth ($38.39) 154bb
MP funtuning-de ($28.58) 114bb
CO TheMarxBros3 ($22) 88bb
BTN yanick13.04 ($56.35) 225bb
SB joiner jon ($34.08) 136bb
BB RupertMurdoc ($54.64) 219bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 7 players) TheMarxBros3 is CO 4♦ 7♠ Q♣ 8♣
JD Bhaiya calls $0.25, 2 folds, TheMarxBros3 calls $0.25, yanick13.04 raises to $1.35, 2 folds, JD Bhaiya folds, TheMarxBros3 calls $1.10
Main Pot : ($3.30)
TheMarxBros3: -$0.09 EV (38.30%)
yanick13.04: +$0.69 EV (61.70%)
Flop: 4♠ 7♥ 4♣ ($3.30, 2 players)
TheMarxBros3 checks, yanick13.04 bets $1.75, TheMarxBros3 raises to $5.08, yanick13.04 raises to $18.40, TheMarxBros3 goes all-in $20.65, yanick13.04 calls $2.25
Main Pot : ($44.60)
TheMarxBros3: +$18.18 EV (90.10%)
yanick13.04: -$16.23 EV (9.90%)
Turn: J♥ ($44.60, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Main Pot : ($44.60)
TheMarxBros3: +$42.37 EV (95.00%)
yanick13.04: +$2.23 EV (5.00%)
River: 9♣ ($44.60, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Main Pot : ($44.60)
TheMarxBros3: +$44.60 EV (100.00%)
yanick13.04: +$0.00 EV (0.00%)
Final Pot: $44.60
TheMarxBros3 shows a full house, Fours full of Sevens
4♦ 7♠ Q♣ 8♣
yanick13.04 shows three of a kind, Fours
4♥ A♦ 6♣ A♠
TheMarxBros3 wins $42.70 (net +$20.70)
JD Bhaiya lost $0.25
yanick13.04 lost $22
Session---2.5 hours---2 tables---209 hands
Profit---$19.80
You know from all the blogs here your's is my favourite. I think in most of the blogs people focus to much on poker and just state "facts" all the time instead of giving there followers an insight into there life
Regarding the hand you posted. I don't think it's too loose, but I think it's another hand we might have a discussion about 
I don't like your overlimp after UTG already limps. You should (ofc depending on all players stats) iso-raise here to get position. Obv. BTN would 3-bet here and you could call if UTG calls because the pot odds get really good, and also call if UTG folds because you know you are mostly up against AAxx so you can outplay him postflop very easy. On the flop it's pretty easy then, think here villains stats depend on if I'd play bet/call, check/raise or check/call (flop), but I guess your flopline is the best most of the times...
Originally posted by RaucheCh1987
You know from all the blogs here your's is my favourite. I think in most of the blogs people focus to much on poker and just state "facts" all the time instead of giving there followers an insight into there lifeRegarding the hand you posted. I don't think it's too loose, but I think it's another hand we might have a discussion about
I don't like your overlimp after UTG already limps. You should (ofc depending on all players stats) iso-raise here to get position. Obv. BTN would 3-bet here and you could call if UTG calls because the pot odds get really good, and also call if UTG folds because you know you are mostly up against AAxx so you can outplay him postflop very easy. On the flop it's pretty easy then, think here villains stats depend on if I'd play bet/call, check/raise or check/call (flop), but I guess your flopline is the best most of the times...
Thank you for the complement.
I try to make this blog as interesting as possible by showing life as I know it as well as how I play hands.
On the hand posted.
1-I am a notorious limper, as my strength is post-flop play. That is why I limp more then most. I like to see flops. Lots of flops. I feel I can play with the best of them post-flop so I am not really interested in isolating my opponents. The more the merrier I say. Also I am a strong believer in doing the "Exact Opposite" of my opponents. They like to isolate and I like to use their aggression against them.
As far as the amount of my check-raise is concerned. I made it just big enough that if he called I could get all my chips in on the turn. No since scaring him away with a big check-raise. Fortunately for me he put me all-in on the flop with a re-raise.
It is the same in real life. If you want to make money in the stock market then do the opposite of everyone else. When they are panic selling then that is the time to be buying. When they are buying that is the time to be selling.
I tried moving that hand I posted like you suggested but the button to post a new thread would not show up for me. Maybe it is because I am not silver. I have given up playing on Everest as they never seem to report my play there in a timely matter which in turn causes my status here to remain bronze most months. I have reported the problem to the powers that be but because it is an internal issue with the way Everest reports, there is nothing they can do. My response to this then is to limit my play at Everest, which is the only site I am tracked here. Some things are just out of ones control.
If you can figure out how to move it then feel free to do so as I can not.
You response reminds me of Gordon... perhaps you saw some posts of him or his students -> he's one of the propably best NLH heads up coaches, and his approach is well not the same but he also doesn't care about fancy play. He teaches to just play straight forward, until villain gives you a reason (shows you some stupid moves or similar) to adapt a bit.
I also like your comment regarding the stock market... right you are again.
I don't know if you checked up my blog yesterday/today - I moved my blog to my websdomainite ( https://www.d0nkbet.com since I believe it brings some advantages (will still post here too, but only short summaries) and would like to here "an old mans" opinion on the structure/usability of the site as well as the loading time from the U.S. ...
Originally posted by RaucheCh1987
You response reminds me of Gordon... perhaps you saw some posts of him or his students -> he's one of the propably best NLH heads up coaches, and his approach is well not the same but he also doesn't care about fancy play. He teaches to just play straight forward, until villain gives you a reason (shows you some stupid moves or similar) to adapt a bit.
I also like your comment regarding the stock market... right you are again.
I don't know if you checked up my blog yesterday/today - I moved my blog to my websdomainite ( https://www.d0nkbet.com since I believe it brings some advantages (will still post here too, but only short summaries) and would like to here "an old mans" opinion on the structure/usability of the site as well as the loading time from the U.S. ...
I do not know who Gordon is but I have heard a few people mention his name around here.
When I first learned how to play Hold-em it was at a roving charity casino we used to have here. 3 of the players I regularly played against back then have gone on to play professionally. This was back around 1994-95 before the game became as popular as it is today.
The very first tournament I played in back then was "The New England Poker Championships" at the Foxwoods Resort Casino the first year they held them. The place was so new they were still building the 2nd tower.
6 of us from that game went for 3 days. Foxwoods is a 12 hour drive from here so it was nice to have a few of us share the driving.
I bombed out after 3 hours in the tournament by running a semi-bluff on the turn getting all my chips in the middle with a nut flush draw and straight draw. Unfortunately my opponent held the fantastic hand of pocket 6's and called me with 4 over-cards on board. I missed everything. Don't be to sad for me though as I went to play $10-$20 limit for the next 3 days we were there and I couldn't miss for the rest of our stay. I made the wife happy by giving her the $4,500 I won playing and this was after all the expenses had been taken out. The 3 players I mentioned that have gone pro from that daily game were.
1-Gavin Smith--my friend who I have mentioned numerous ties here.
2-Grant--He was a policeman by day and the best poker player around by night. These days you can find Grant in Vegas playing $200-$400 limit holdem. He plays higher limits but nothing smaller.
3-Nick-He was a stockbroker who found his fame playing in the Party Poker Millions on T.V.
So you see I have had some pretty good teachers. They took my money for about the first week I joined that game but I wasn't long getting it back with interest once I figured out the rules.
I promise I will check out your blog as soon as I get a free minute. Today I worked 13.5 hours and only stopped to read pokerstrategy while eating supper. Hopefully I will get time tomorrow and will happily critique it for you.
I am from Canada not the U.S. A common mistake. The main difference between the 2 of us. We are much more polite then Americans and they tend to be much more arrogant.
Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
I promise I will check out your blog as soon as I get a free minute. Today I worked 13.5 hours and only stopped to read pokerstrategy while eating supper. Hopefully I will get time tomorrow and will happily critique it for you.
I am from Canada not the U.S. A common mistake. The main difference between the 2 of us. We are much more polite then Americans and they tend to be much more arrogant.
Haha, sry for the confusin about your origin. Yeah I know canadians are usually more polite...Sam here at the moment having 16+ hour days full of work and a little bit time for trading and poker. I guess my advantage is that I work with my computer anyway, so I can just check out the blogs besides working, it's still hard to get everything working out... the bloggin really takes some time, spent over an hour yesterday to sum up my trading day... Pokerwise I guess it's going to be the same in the near future... but I like it when my life is stressed like this... makes me feel like I'm not wasting my life...
I really enjoy the stories from your past, and I'm pretty impressed that you still remember hands you played ~20 years ago... well I was around 7 or 8 years old back then lol
Originally posted by RaucheCh1987
As played I think you are in "pretty bad" shape. There are so many hands that won't fold the flop: every decent flushdraw, every JTxx combo, every 67XX 78XX and so on. This is actually good for you in case the turn blanks BUT think about how many cards are bad for you on the turn:- every spade
- every K
- every J
- every T
- every 8
- every 7
- every 6so actuall there is not really a card you want to see, because even 4,3 and 2 bring new straight draws to the board.
If 4, 3, and 2 are bad, an A is even worse, because it put wheel draws and Broadway draws out there. KJ, KT, JT, 43, 42, and 32 all pick up straight draws if an Ace turns, not to mention AAxx now has you drawing to one out on the river, and if it's the A♠ it also puts the flush out there, and is the best possible card for your opponent if he has K♠x♠, because no other spade gives him the nuts. So every card that doesn't pair the board potentially makes your opponents hand, or at least gives him more outs. You really need to make your full house (or quads) on the turn for it not to be a scare card. The card that actually turned, T♠, really is the worst possible turn card. It's much more likely that he has JJxx than TTxx, so J♠ isn't quite as bad because it could possibly get you paid off by a worse set.