Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

NL2 Zoom: bluffing river with A high in 3bet pot after del cbet got called on paired turn

6 Posts
2 Users
0 Reactions
902 Views
briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$5.70:///////;SB$0.90:///////;BB (Hero)$2.94:///////;MP2$1.23:///////;MP3$1.66:///////;CO$1.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with K:d, A:d.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, CO calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.37) Q:h, 7:h, 9:s (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($0.37) Q:c (2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, CO calls $0.18.

River: ($0.73) 6:h (2 players)

Spoiler

Hero bets $0.70, CO folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $0.73.

Ok, by the river I felt the need to bluff. As it is a 3bet pot, I do not think he has so many flush Combos (also considering his shallow starting stack) More likely he has AK as well or some pocket pair like JJ, TT. Hence my shove on the river, hoping to make him fold. Could I also have bluffed smaller?


Reply
Quote
5 replies
Mikus8
Joined: 06.10.2011

I don't think he ever folds JJ or TT here. More than likely you just had the best hand.


Reply
Quote
briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

Ok if your assumptions were true, my shove is obv very bad. So you would give up on the hand and x/f?


Reply
Quote
Mikus8
Joined: 06.10.2011

Why would I give up what I think is the best hand?
Your shove is not very bad, just a little because all his holdings on this river is either an easy call (straights and flushes, Qx and boats) or easy fold (JT, KJ, some Ax and random hands)
Yes you could have bluffed smaller, and yes you could have check-called, betting tiny for value is also an option but then you don't really know where you're at if your opponent goes crazy and shoves because you obv don't have a very strong hand and might level yourself into thinking that you induced his action by this bet.


Reply
Quote
briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

Ok, I agree there are more broadway combos than pairs, and in addition it is dubious whether he would or should fold pairs when I do not represent a lot. I mean obv in this spot I have a very polarized range but it is unlikely I would check flop with either a made hand or a flush draw, especially since his stack is so shallow, and I do not need a c-r to get him stacked by the river. So if I were in his shoes, I would be inclined to hero-call.

Also, if he did have a hand like JJ-TT, first of all he might decide to get it in for 50 bbs pre, and if he does not, and I check the flop, he would probably bet the flop with only 1 overcard. So it is not very likely that he has that in the first place.

Does he ever have 88, 66-22? He certainly should not be calling a 3bet on a shallow stack with that. But then, neither should he with KJ, KT, AT, JT, AJ right? He could have AK, despite he might also want to 4bet/broke that pre. I am not so experienced with shallow stacks, so I am really confused what his range is by the river if he is a decent player. He probably has AJ or JT or maybe the likes of A9s or A8s. But none of these hands should be in his range even on the flop if he is playing 50bbs, or am I wrong?


Reply
Quote
Mikus8
Joined: 06.10.2011

Well this guy probably doesn't care about ranges and stuff. Don't assume everyone in nl2 is a thinking player. You don't have to do anything fancy to beat nl2 zoom.

You are wrong in a way that you think this guy has constructed a perfectly balanced opening range for 50bbs in NL2


Reply
Quote