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679Ts facing pot size on blanc flush draw card

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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Just new to omaha, wanted to give it a try:). Anyway, at the micros you can lose a lot money but also win some decent amount by nutt peddling i think. But here is my question. This one way suited card and connected cards with one gap(wrap or so?). Can i play it from MP? And if so, i think i misplayed here turn and should have folded this.... Result went well but that just doesn't say anything in poker:P.

PokerJuice Hand History #3616

Blinds: $0.01/$0.02
BTN ktqorrha ($2.83) 142bb (Villain)
SB marcel 68183 ($2.06) 103bb
BB spartak2012 ($2.42) 121bb
UTG nAAuGhTyOnE ($2.25) 113bb
MP advancedtn84 ($2) 100bb (Hero) T♥ 6♦ 7♦ 9♣
CO zoran445 ($1.98) 99bb

($0.03, 6 players)
nAAuGhTyOnE folds, advancedtn84 raises to $0.07, zoran445 folds, ktqorrha calls $0.07, marcel 68183 folds, spartak2012 folds

($0.17, 2 players) 6♠ 9♥ 3♣
advancedtn84 bets $0.16, ktqorrha calls $0.16

($0.49, 2 players) 6♠ 9♥ 3♣ J♣
advancedtn84 bets $0.47, ktqorrha raises to $1.12, advancedtn84 raises to $1.77, ktqorrha calls $0.65

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Zlaine
Joined: 27.12.2010

On a loose table I would fold, not good enough multiway.

On the Turn we should have the best hand quite often, villain will shove a lot of Kombodraws of which we block some outs. Cant see us folding in this spot because sets are pretty unlikely the way the hand was played.


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helliaspapas
Joined: 07.03.2009

Against all draws (87T,87TQ,87TcQc) we're close to even money and we're actually getting the best of it.So if you don't think that villain will make this kind of play with a set (other from some combos of turned Jacks) you are right to get it in.As Zlaine said it is pretty unlikely given the course of action that he has any sets and he takes this line with them.


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Thanks for the reply, i will do some calculations with those ranges:).


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Guys, most players don't raise draws here. They call with draws and raise made hands. While JJ is unlikely, J9 is very possible, so i would make a fold here unless i knew villain vas very agressive. However, i would do that at let's say plo10+. At plo2 i guess there can be enough random players so that a stackoff can be fine ott, but if you want to improve your game, this is a snap fold to the raise.

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Skod


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TheMarxBros3
Joined: 21.09.2008

I agree 100% with Skodljivec.
This is an easy fold.


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Originally posted by Skodljivec
Guys, most players don't raise draws here. They call with draws and raise made hands. While JJ is unlikely, J9 is very possible, so i would make a fold here unless i knew villain vas very agressive. However, i would do that at let's say plo10+. At plo2 i guess there can be enough random players so that a stackoff can be fine ott, but if you want to improve your game, this is a snap fold to the raise.

Regards,

Skod

Thanks, looked into it a bit. Against some random flush combination with the Ace of clubs and for example a J in his hand i am flipping on the wrong site. Against J9xx i am crushed also against the JJxx i am crushed. So I agree with a clear fold in this situation. Thanks anyway:). Why is JJxx unlikely? If 9J is likely than he certainly can float with JJxx, or is JJxx 3betting preflop?


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

His raise is almost a minraise. Looks a lot like J9 at most. Even against that you don't have enough equity. But if he has some weirdly played overpair+flushdraw in his range you can stack off.


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

He had a J and flush draw.:) And i won the hand but i dont care about that. I think that folding is the better option.


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TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

PF i d open only on a very tight table

F ok
T rly depends imo. u have a lot of more solid ppl which range after F call will be weighted tow mostly 89Tx/678x hands. (will he b/c them or xbeh them is the question) then u have more of bad lags who can have few bad draws of 45xx/ 57xx. many of these hands are looking to b/f after u x to get u off 1pair hands, depending of ur perceived gameplan. so rly depends on his stab when xto and his gamblemood. x/shove T for dead money seems very standardish. with ur blockers, his set is superunlikely (33 coz of PF), most sets will be 9TJJ types, which is very very low freq

if he had pure Jx w fd then ur open PF was most likely bad :) (but ur bet OTT seems good then)


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