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KK vs 4bet shove of a nitty player

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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Hi guys

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $30.71 (122.8 bb)
BB: $44.33 (177.3 bb)
UTG+1: $35.91 (143.6 bb)
UTG+2: $30.14 (120.6 bb)
MP1: $23.98 (95.9 bb)
MP2: $90.22 (360.9 bb)
MP3: $44.59 (178.4 bb)
CO: $26.24 (105 bb)
BTN: $28.31 (113.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BB raises to $44.33 and is all-in, MP1 folds, Hero?

Villain 13/8 in 8.8kh
3b 2%, fold to 4b 27%
4bet% 4%
Cold4b 1%

The OR is a fish

i really dont know what that shove means

i mean, why u will shove QQ/AK vs a 3bet vs UTG?

on the other hand, why u will shove AA to make the fish fold and lose value against the 3bettor?

Toughts?

Call? Fold?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

1% cold 4 bet is AA-KK. He is shoving cause he wants to isolate vs 1 player.


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010

Snap fold


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

It used to be that we never folded KK preflop and if they had AA then so be it. Opinion on that seems to be less definite these days given we have more information. I could fold that on full ring most days (most) and we have to bare in mind that from utg even a recreational player is likely to have a strong hand, making the cold 4bet an even stronger play.
I haven't played full ring for some time though, so maybe my opinion is out of line but it's a rare fold for me given those numbers.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010