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SH Speed QQ, BTN vs CO 3bet Pot

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
BB: $5.01 (100.2 bb)
UTG: $4.81 (96.2 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $6.33 (126.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $6.40 (128 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 7 T 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.17) 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1.15, CO calls $1.15

River: ($4.47) J (2 players)
CO bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Preflop: The CO is unknown, so I think it's standard to 3bet for value.

Flop: Hit na overpair. I'm not sure if this board hits him. If he is a reg, he doesn't have sets nor TP hands that often. He might have TT or JJ, but I believe he often has something like overcards. So, I decided to bet.

Turn: I think he probably doesn't have fullhouses or quads because I expect him to check/raise the flop. He might have something like AdKd-AdJd or KdQd. I think betting is still the best option here.

River: From the range I assumed he has, I believe the strongest hand he has is something like TP. Still, this mindonkbet looks really suspicius. I think I can't fold. anyway.


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

Off to bed
:)
I think your play is strait forward
I tend to overbet overpairs and lose value or get smacked by a better hand on the river
:f_drink:


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by GoOnCal1
Off to bed
:)
I think your play is strait forward
I tend to overbet overpairs and lose value or get smacked by a better hand on the river
:f_drink:

You mean, you would overbet Flop and Turn or you would shove the river?


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Heh. I would jam over his donk :f_biggrin:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You lose to JJ-TT and beat only 1 combo of AdJd...


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
You lose to JJ-TT and beat only 1 combo of AdJd...

So, you think that folding is the right play?


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

He beats JTs (2 combos more:) ) For that price I'm calling.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It is very villain dependant if he is going to donk JTs on this board. I think most of the time he will x/call it.


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begbane
Joined: 05.10.2010

please 1.1$ into pot of 4.47$ what hand he can have there.
vilan have some stupid hand like KJ with flush draw on flop.

without raise here you lose value,fish will pay you 99% of the time

I am not say shove just a raise to about 2.95$ is just fine


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by begbane
please 1.1$ into pot of 4.47$ what hand he can have there.
vilan have some stupid hand like KJ with flush draw on flop.

without raise here you lose value,fish will pay you 99% of the time

I am not say shove just a raise to about 2.95$ is just fine

I wouldn't assume that he is a fish. I have no info at all on him.


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

Originally posted by begbane
I am not say shove just a raise to about 2.95$ is just fine

What weaker hands will call the raise?

As played, I will call, mostly because his donk-bet is very small. I won't be surprised to see a :6x: here, or a :Jx: . If he donked with some trash hand, more money for you.


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

Hi Aleen86Against "unknown" I am usually cautious till have a read, 'cept with a big advantage like this hand, we are also unknown, so I over bet the flop value and table image.

Just reflecting that a lot of hands posted seem to have villains without much info and apparently "aggressive"
We see a lot hit run gamblers and sometimes fold to early aggression realizing a bit later they were playing us rather than the board.
So as played I shove the river I guess expecting to see K10


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seacat22
Joined: 10.08.2013

I think your play is fine given the info you had at the time you bet 66% on each street and got a lot of value his donk on river is either a block bet to stop you betting large against a hand he does not want to give up ie top pair, or it is an induce with a monster in case you check back river. By calling against top pair you win a medium pot ,against a monster you lose the least.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think it's obvious that I can't just fold, but I'm glad I didn't raise or shove because the guy had 77. :f_cool:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

x/c,x/c, donk is strong and on this limit there will be just a few players to do this as a bluff or with a medium strength hand.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
x/c,x/c, donk is strong and on this limit there will be just a few players to do this as a bluff or with a medium strength hand.

Of course. But we need to win in 16,5% of cases with the call to make it profitable. I think we have that equity.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I don't think so. You beat only AdJd, all other hands beat you. You have to fold.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
I don't think so. You beat only AdJd, all other hands beat you. You have to fold.

Fair enough!


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

no way in hell i am folding, he def could be blocking AT or some rivered tp out of a fd. wp him :f_biggrin:


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jonnyZ
Joined: 24.05.2010

nitrol: why only AdJd? Cant he have a couple of other J with diamond draw or even a Tdxd?


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