KQs 4bet pot, check fold flop?

I think this is a flop you will be c betting a lot.

Is he 5 betting at all?

Originally posted by nitrol
I think this is a flop you will be c betting a lot.

and... ?

i expect him to flat nearly anything against that size. calldown or fold river if you feel like it

i xc flop, a 4c hits turn and he shoves .. i fold

tomaloc, wich size is good for 4bet OOP? something like 5,625 (x2.25) ?
thxs

enough that you feel he can't call with decent speculative hands. he's ip so be generous

Standard size for 4 bet is 2.2-2.5x.

Thxs

2.5x is 6,25$ seems a little large for me

2.3 looks sexy (5,75$)

i think call pre is decent btw, he's wide enough

im pretty horrible playing OOP 3b pots and this hand is the bottom of my vs 3b defend -> 4bet

3b vs EP 4%
Why do you think it`s good to 4bet this hand oop with 4 people left to act vs someone who 3bets fairly tight and wil continue with like 1.5% of hands which crush you due to:
fold to 4b 61%

As played flop is a check fold. He`s flatting all his AA, KK, QQ, AK is questionable.

as played, bet flop and fold if he raises. When you check, he's betting TT, JJ, AK that are lesser and will make you fold. You hit TP and you check fold flop in a 4bet pot? That does not make sense to me. If you think he's 3betting too much vs you, you should just call the KQs instead of turning it in to a bluff imo

You lose mostly to AQ. That is only 8 combos. I discount AA/KK/QQ because you block them, and he didn't 5-bet preflop. He easily has JJ/TT = 12 combos + AK = 12 combos more (and god knows what else). And, yes, people do bluff, so check-folding flop is absolutely horrible.

preflop
he has a 3bet of 6% ..... K:hearts:Q:hearts: = equity 37% => fold preflop
vs you he 3-bets 12% .... K:hearts:Q:hearts: =equity 45% => fold preflop

flop
vs 6% range ..... K♥Q♥ = equity 63%
vs 12% range .... K♥Q♥ =equity 72%
vs AQ+, TT+ ...... K♥Q♥ =equity 50%
i would not give up on flop