JJ vs 4bet. Flat or shove?

i wouldn't say he is necessarily wide here. anyway well you are oop so just ship it if you feel like it

I dunno. vs QQ+,AK you have 36%... Do not like that much to shove as AK will not be all combos.

the whole point is that he is wider than QQ+ AK, so he either folds too much or calls behind. cant be sure i agree with the assumption

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hands with an overcard have like 30%, he has position and stuff. picking up the dead money is a perfectly good outcome

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i tend to shove much more being oop so yeah. call AA if you feel like it

It also depends on how BB is seeing CO and us. If you are aggressive 3 bet defender of SB it is another case.

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do you think he randomly cold4bets 97s and donks his stack off in any runout? i doubt it. if you can make him fold high equity hands like KQ AJ A5s or whatever that's a very good result for you.

I don't like flatting. I would probably fold to BB's 4bet, but when think about it, given the stats you gave, I like shoving. But I am a nit and would probably fold.

Originally posted by IPtkv
He could do this with really wide range, just to pick up the dead money.

There are no dead money on the table. Fold with confidence.

call is out of the question, it would suck to play this postflop

im probably folding vs a cold 4b here but im okay with shove too without reads

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