Time for some points. Well done guys.
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Hi again weazel,
Here hero is IP and is the PFR so it's not exactly the same situation of stabing / probe betting.
SB: $27.89 (174.3 bb)
BB: $17.05 (106.6 bb)
UTG: $14.43 (90.2 bb)
MP: $19.65 (122.8 bb)
CO: $32.15 (200.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $16 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8
4
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.34, SB folds, BB calls $0.18
Flop: ($0.76) 8
Q 6 (2 players)
BB checks,
BB is unknown.
He have some SDV and a two weak backdoors. Do we cbet?
Our cbet it isn't for value since we dont have 50% equity against villain continue range but can we call turn when villain stabs? On blank probably... But what about a overcard to our pair (not hearts) we'll always fold right?
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btw, if we are OOP what changes?
Like CO vs BU, for example. Not necessarily 84s but 98hh, 87hh
Originally posted by livethelife7
Didn’t read the whole thread, so don't know if it's already said but maybe an Idea ->
Combine theory not with live play but sometimes also with database analyses like in your red line rampage series. Don’t know how realistic and possible that is for a live coaching, just an idea that came to my mind.
I would like to see theory with hand review 
Hands from coach, ours or even both
Thank you w34z3l for your answers.
Combination of theory with database analysis sounds good to me as well. But live play time to time is nice too.
Hey Adam
Wrong thread I know but I just finished a revision of the walkthrough series, and I really liked it.
One thing I thought was especially great was how, at the end of the video on playing 3bet pots OOP, you gave some example hands without answers. That way I could pause the video, write my answers, and see what I'd taken in.
You may well do this in all your videos now but it's definitely something you should make a habit of ending videos with. Great idea.
Keep up the good work.
Nice hand you got there. I like your argument for betting because the hand will become pretty difficult on a lot of turn cards when villian bets.
On the other hand, the board is quite drawie with the flush draw and the potential straight draw, so we can't expect to many folds, from villains pre flop Calling range in the BB. If we bet and get called, a turn check from us would allow our opponent to bluff every two cards on the river with a good chance of us folding, if we would get check-raised on the flop we would hate life, because we would often fold against draws.
By checking behind we can control the size of the pot according to our weak "made" hand, and are much more comfortable on the turn. 
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Just watched your Squeeze video and i have some questions.
First question is regarding what to take in consideration when thinking in squeeze, should we take in consideration f3bet from villain or you do think it's such a different spot we shouldn't take that into account? If villain doesn't like to fold to 3bets should we, for example, fold AJo and Squeeze more AQs?
Another question is regarding our range, in the first example you talked about, BU vs UTG+MP, we squeeze AJo+, KQo, QQ+ and AKs, but i wonder vs what kind of player are you talking about, is this vs a standard OR of like 16%? What to do vs a OR of 11-13%?
Also you didn't mentioned squeeze sizes, do you change your size depending on positions involved? A size between 11bb-13bb?
Keep the videos coming and i like to congratulate you on your coaches aswell, very good material.
Forget about the sizing question, i see you talked about it in a previous question from Iuri 3x+x per caller, got it
Hi i am in for sure.Recently i started to watch your series.They are great :f_thumbsup:.I woud love to see some Mindse/Goal seting/Importance of motivation videos.I am been successful in few areas of my life and i know that those topics are on of the key elements in everything. Wish you luck ♠_drink:
Originally posted by IuriTPena
Hi again weazel,Here hero is IP and is the PFR so it's not exactly the same situation of stabing / probe betting.
SB: $27.89 (174.3 bb)
BB: $17.05 (106.6 bb)
UTG: $14.43 (90.2 bb)
MP: $19.65 (122.8 bb)
CO: $32.15 (200.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $16 (100 bb)Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.34, SB folds, BB calls $0.18Flop: ($0.76) 8
BB checks,BB is unknown.
He have some SDV and a two weak backdoors. Do we cbet?
Our cbet it isn't for value since we dont have 50% equity against villain continue range but can we call turn when villain stabs? On blank probably... But what about a overcard to our pair (not hearts) we'll always fold right?
This is a pretty good example of a situation where although we have showdown value it's better to simply bet for protection at these limits. Even if we don't have over 50% equity vs our opponent's calling range it doesn't mean our equity is useless and we can still get called by a reasonable amount of worse hands. Assuming we still have 2nd pair on turn I'd likely double barrel for protection and check back river.
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Originally posted by IuriTPena
btw, if we are OOP what changes?
Like CO vs BU, for example. Not necessarily 84s but 98hh, 87hh
Usually still a pretty good idea to bet although it's less necessary since the situation is less profitable overall. It's not a big deal to start out by checking flop OOP since it's going to be harder to control the action OOP. In many cases betting for protection will still be the strongest option at lower limits.
Thanks Ales851 and IuriTPena for your sessions on live coaching format. Both HH review and DB analysis will be considered as possible formats for future live coaching where applicable.
Originally posted by MJPerry
Hey AdamWrong thread I know but I just finished a revision of the walkthrough series, and I really liked it.
One thing I thought was especially great was how, at the end of the video on playing 3bet pots OOP, you gave some example hands without answers. That way I could pause the video, write my answers, and see what I'd taken in.
You may well do this in all your videos now but it's definitely something you should make a habit of ending videos with. Great idea.
Keep up the good work.
Noted, thanks for the suggestion
Originally posted by I3ryI3e
First question is regarding what to take in consideration when thinking in squeeze, should we take in consideration f3bet from villain or you do think it's such a different spot we shouldn't take that into account? If villain doesn't like to fold to 3bets should we, for example, fold AJo and Squeeze more AQs?
We don't want to be suffering from fancy play syndrome, so if someone is a huge fish incapable of folding then we don't really need to worry too much about bluff squeezing, we can just play very straightforwardly for value with a tight squeezing range.
The "IP" squeeze ranges will actually be totally fine regardless of whether our opponents fold or not since they are all high-equity holdings. OOP we can cut out all squeezes with speculative hands vs opponents who have issues with folding both preflop and postflop.
Originally posted by I3ryI3e
Another question is regarding our range, in the first example you talked about, BU vs UTG+MP, we squeeze AJo+, KQo, QQ+ and AKs, but i wonder vs what kind of player are you talking about, is this vs a standard OR of like 16%? What to do vs a OR of 11-13%?
Unless otherwise stated I am using default values for open-raising when making assumptions. 13% EP, 18% MP, 26% CO, 48% BTN, 36% SB. Naturally vs extremely tight open-raises we can think about tightening up our squeezing range. It can still be worth checking fold-to-3bet or fold-to-squeeze however since some players will surprise us by opening super tight but still somehow managing to fold every single time to a 3bet or squeeze.
Originally posted by AleksandurAntov
Hi i am in for sure.Recently i started to watch your series.They are great :f_thumbsup:.I woud love to see some Mindse/Goal seting/Importance of motivation videos.I am been successful in few areas of my life and i know that those topics are on of the key elements in everything. Wish you luck ♠_drink:
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Well done guys!
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Originally posted by w34z3l
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Originally posted by IuriTPena
Hi again weazel,Here hero is IP and is the PFR so it's not exactly the same situation of stabing / probe betting.
SB: $27.89 (174.3 bb)
BB: $17.05 (106.6 bb)
UTG: $14.43 (90.2 bb)
MP: $19.65 (122.8 bb)
CO: $32.15 (200.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $16 (100 bb)Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.34, SB folds, BB calls $0.18Flop: ($0.76) 8
BB checks,BB is unknown.
He have some SDV and a two weak backdoors. Do we cbet?
Our cbet it isn't for value since we dont have 50% equity against villain continue range but can we call turn when villain stabs? On blank probably... But what about a overcard to our pair (not hearts) we'll always fold right?This is a pretty good example of a situation where although we have showdown value it's better to simply bet for protection at these limits. Even if we don't have over 50% equity vs our opponent's calling range it doesn't mean our equity is useless and we can still get called by a reasonable amount of worse hands. Assuming we still have 2nd pair on turn I'd likely double barrel for protection and check back river.
I can't understand, sorry 
BB call open: 99-22, AJs-A2s, K2s+, Q5s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, AJo-A9o, KTo+, QTo+, JTo
Board: 6♥Q♠8♠
Equity Win Tie
MP2 43.16% 42.19% 0.96% { 8h4h }
MP3 56.84% 55.88% 0.96% { 99-88, 66, 44, A8s, KQs, K8s, Q5s+, J8s, T8s, 98s, 86s+, 76s, 64s+, AhJh, AsJs, KhJh, KsJs, AhTh, AsTs, KhTh, KsTs, JhTh, JsTs, Ah9h, As9s, Kh9h, Ks9s, Jh9h, Js9s, Th9h, Ts9s, Ah7h, As7s, Kh7h, Ks7s, Jh7h, Js7s, Th7h, Ts7s, 9h7h, 9s7s, Ah6h, As6s, Kh6h, Ks6s, Ah5h, As5s, Kh5h, Ks5s, 7h5h, 7s5s, Ah4h, As4s, Kh4h, Ks4s, 5h4h, 5s4s, Ah3h, As3s, Kh3h, Ks3s, Ah2h, As2s, Kh2h, Ks2s, KQo, QTo+, AsJd, AsJh, AsJc, AsTd, AsTh, AsTc, As9d, As9h, As9c, JdTs, JhTs, JsTd, JsTh, JsTc, JcTs }
Why should we bet if villain will only continue with a "strong enough" range, given the pot odds?
- villain has to fold hands with equity vs our hand is one reason (villain folding range has ~23% equity vs our hand if i do this right)
Let say our hand vs JsTh we have ~60% equity. We bet 1/2 pot, so villain has 25% pot odds. He has a clear cut call with his hand. Even if we bet 3/4 pot he has a break even call. But in general we are betting against this hand AND better AND some hands that villain will fold. So why do we even bet? Our best approach shouldn't be calling turn if we think that villain is outplaying us with his draws?
Another question is if we bet all this type of hands what will be our check back flop, call turn range? Only things like AdTd that spike an Ace or a Ten for example?
Our check back range will be too weak and we will have a high x/f %. Exactly the thing that we want exploit in the others. If we are exploiting that but open ourselves to the same thing... How can this be a +EV play?
PS: should we bet AdTd OTF ?
Originally posted by w34z3l
Originally posted by IuriTPena
btw, if we are OOP what changes?
Like CO vs BU, for example. Not necessarily 84s but 98hh, 87hhUsually still a pretty good idea to bet although it's less necessary since the situation is less profitable overall. It's not a big deal to start out by checking flop OOP since it's going to be harder to control the action OOP. In many cases betting for protection will still be the strongest option at lower limits.
Again i cant understand... We are OOP so we have one less free card sort of speak and villain has 3 streets to outplay us while when we are IP he has only 2, if we check behind. So shouldn't we bet more often here?
You say no because it's a less profitable overall... yeah, here i got back to the IP situation: why betting is profitable?
Hope that my english is good enough, since it's not my main language 
Hey Iuri,
Firstly vs that range we should have about 60% equity so I guess your calculation was based on villain's continuing range where we have less than 50% equity. What this essentially means is that we must have folded out a ton of hands that have significant equity against us. This is essentially how we profit. It's not necessary to have over 50% equity vs our opponent's calling range to bet profitably. This would be trying to force the principle that "we should either be value-betting or bluffing" which many (if not most) players understand is an outdated way of looking at the game.
There are many turn cards that we may be forced to fold on here if villain leads the turn. So the advantage we get by betting flop is not purely based on equity protection but also protection against being bluffed off our hand on later streets. To make a list of advantages to betting (and keep in mind that these MUST be included into our EV calculation, it's not just as simple as seeing how much equity we have with equilab) -
i) We build a pot in case we hit
ii) We can fold out better hands by the river
iii) We protect ourselves from being bluffed on later streets
iv) We fold out our opponent's equity share
v) We may get called by some worse hands. (Remember that just because we have less than 50% equity does not mean our equity is meaningless, especially if we have a realisation advantage)
Advantages to checking -
i) We keep the pot small in marginal situation
ii) We slightly protect our turn range (although the effect of this is debatable with a pair of 8's weak kicker)
So in isolation betting is clearly stronger than checking. However you made a fair point about protecting our turn range. The advice I gave was specific to the stake the hand was played at where protecting our turn range is not really an issue. Assuming we want to protect our flop checking back range we'd need to check back
i) premiums
ii) mid-strength stuff like weak top-pair and 84s (although I still potentially prefer 84s as a bet since it's so weak and better as a semi-bluff)
iii) backdoor draws + gutshots
iv) air
Hey guys,
Tomorrow's live coaching will be on defending vs 3bets IP as the caller. Please post any HH's you'd like evaluated where you call a 3bet an play IP postflop.
Post 2 hands for 2 points each.
