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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

Hand #1
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

CO: $5.00 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 0.5, Hands: 93
Hero (BTN): $9.18 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 87063
SB: $12.71 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 9, AF: 6.0, Hands: 185
BB: $5.93 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 4.2, Hands: 191
UTG: $8.31 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 164
MP: $5.56 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 26, 3B: 15, AF: 2.2, Hands: 165

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 9 :club: 9 :heart:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.33

Flop: ($0.92) 8 :club: Q :heart: 5 :club: (2 players)
BB bets $0.66, Hero calls $0.66

Turn: ($2.24) 7 :club: (2 players)
BB bets $1.43, Hero calls $1.43

River: ($5.10) Q :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $5.10
Hero shows 9 :club: 9 :heart:
BB shows Q :diamond: J :heart:
Hero wins $4.89
(Rake: $0.21)

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Hand #2
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

CO: $4.64 - VPIP: 62, PFR: 21, 3B: 0, AF: 8.0, Hands: 29
Hero (BTN): $7.11 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 87063
SB: $5.15 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 26, 3B: 15, AF: 2.2, Hands: 165
BB: $6.60 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 3.0, Hands: 114
UTG: $5.02 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 24

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with T :club: A :spade:
1 fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) J :diamond: T :diamond: T :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.20) A :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.22, SB folds

Final Pot: $3.20
Hero wins $3.07
(Rake: $0.13)


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

I have a question and need to know if this is correct or not:
How much % of our 3bet bluff range should be polarized?
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call=50% then our bluff range is 100% polarized towards value(high equity card).
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call= 0% then our bluff range is 0% polarized towards value(high equity card).
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call=25% then our bluff range is 50% polarized towards value(high equity card).
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call=30% then our bluff range is 60% polarized towards value(high equity card).

If this is correct then it messes up my Cold call ranges and i will finish learning the ranges in more than 1 year or never:s_cry:


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livethelife7
Joined: 10.02.2009

Hand 1

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $30.01 (300.1 bb)
BB: $21.55 (215.5 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $12.05 (120.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $12.70 (127 bb)
BTN: $4.85 (48.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.27, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.63

Flop: ($1.85) 9 5 8 (2 players)
BB bets $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.95) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB folds

Results:

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$3.95 pot ($0.18 rake)
Final Board: 9 5 8 8
BB mucked and lost (-$1.95 net)
Hero mucked A Q and won $3.77 ($1.82 net)

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Hand 2


Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.54 (105.4 bb)
BB: $11.84 (118.4 bb)
UTG: $6.38 (63.8 bb)
MP: $4.90 (49 bb)
CO: $11.07 (110.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB folds, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.85) A 9 2 (2 players)
BB bets $0.97, Hero calls $0.97

Turn: ($3.79) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.79) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.45, BB folds

Results:

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$3.79 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: A 9 2 9 8
BB mucked and lost (-$1.87 net)
Hero mucked Q K and won $3.62 ($1.75 net)


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Bump, posts hands for 3bet pots IP as caller or any questions on this topic. Ty.


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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

SB: $42.09 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2,6, Hands: 19091
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 24, 3B: 11, AF: 2,0, Hands: 5198
UTG: $20.00 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 20
MP: $26.23 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 2,1, Hands: 18850
CO: $25.24 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1,3, Hands: 8948
Hero (BTN): $26.49 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3,2, Hands: 150353

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :spade: Q :spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.10) 5 :spade: 9 :diamond: Q :club: (2 players)
BB bets $2.35, Hero calls $2.35

Turn: ($8.80) 6 :spade: (2 players)
BB bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

River: ($19.30) J :club: (2 players)
BB bets $15.40, Hero calls $15.40

Villain Cbet in 3bet pots OOP F: 65 , T: 47 , R:35%(In raised pots) , WTSD 30% , resteal BBvsBTN 24%

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players

SB: $11.40 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 1,4, Hands: 87
BB: $10.00 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 16
CO: $10.25 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 3,8, Hands: 950
Hero (BTN): $10.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3,2, Hands: 150353

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T :diamond: A :spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 5 :club: 7 :spade: 5 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.50) J :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $1.67, Hero raises to $3.50, SB calls $1.83

River: ($10.50) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.80, SB calls $4.80


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IuriTPena
Joined: 09.04.2012

HAND 1

Hero (SB): $10.60 (106 bb)
BB: $10.60 (106 bb)
UTG: $3.47 (34.7 bb)
MP: $13.41 (134.1 bb)
CO: $12.87 (128.7 bb)
BTN: $8.61 (86.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 5 T 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($1.80) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.14, BB calls $1.14

River: ($4.08) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2,

BB: unknown

HAND 2

SB: $10.88 (108.8 bb)
BB: $14.55 (145.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $17.40 (174 bb)
MP: $10.42 (104.2 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $13.11 (131.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q K
Hero raises to $0.30, MP folds, CO raises to $1.05, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) 3 7 J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.05) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.45,

CO: unknown


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Theodor95
Joined: 06.05.2015

1. Hand
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details

UTG: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $11.71 (117.1 bb)
CO: $9.15 (91.5 bb)
BTN: $11.58 (115.8 bb)
SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) 8 3 5 (2 players)
SB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.90) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $2.90, Hero raises to $9.31 and is all-in, SB calls $4.75 and is all-in

River: ($20.20) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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2. Hand

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details

Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)
SB: $12.35 (123.5 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $17.47 (174.7 bb)
MP: $29.18 (291.8 bb)
CO: $9.35 (93.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 7
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.65) J J 8 (2 players)
BB bets $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.75) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $1.90, Hero raises to $4.40, BB raises to $8.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.75 and is all-in

River: ($20.05) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

I went broke in both this hands chasing my draws, my question to you w34z3l is, did i make mathmatical incorrect calls or raises in those spots?


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Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2734685
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SB: $10.95
BB: $15.22
UTG: $19.16
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $4.78
BTN: $10.42

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 8 :heart: 9 :heart:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.05) A :diamond: 3 :club: 9 :spade: (2 players)
BB bets $0.98, Hero calls $0.98

Turn: ($4.01) 2 :heart: (2 players)
BB bets $1.91, Hero folds


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this is the standard play?
v plays 69/62 3bet 58 from 12 situations / 100 hands overall
we should 4bet this hand vs this type of player?
IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
BB: $9.39 (187.8 bb)
UTG: $6.69 (133.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $5.46 (109.2 bb)
CO: $7.64 (152.8 bb)
BTN: $2.50 (50 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.57) J 8 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.57, Hero calls $0.57

Turn: ($1.71) T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.19, BTN folds

Results:

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$1.71 pot ($0.11 rake)
Final Board: J 8 Q T
Hero mucked A J and won $1.60 ($0.78 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$0.82 net)

villain 3bet SB vs BTN 42% cbet flop and turn 71 / 64

IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $13.05 (130.5 bb)
BB: $12.50 (125 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $8.68 (86.8 bb)
CO: $16.44 (164.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $0.90, BB folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) T 3 3 (2 players)
SB bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($3.80) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $1.90, Hero calls $1.90

River: ($7.60) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $3.80, Hero raises to $6.25 and is all-in, SB folds

Results:

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$15.20 pot ($1.01 rake)
Final Board: T 3 3 6 7
SB mucked and lost (-$7.55 net)
Hero mucked 8 8 and won $14.19 ($6.64 net)


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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

sign me up!


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sign me up!


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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

Hi w34z3l , I have a very nice spot and I need to know if my thought proccess is correct.
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2734922

Hero (SB): $20.42 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3,3, Hands: 151755
BB: $10.00 - UNKNOWN
UTG: $11.07 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 23, 3B: 9, AF: 1,6, Hands: 270
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 3,3, Hands: 233
BTN: $10.93 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3,4, Hands: 494

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 8 :diamond: J :spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 9 :heart: 3 :spade: A :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($0.60) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55

River: ($1.70) K :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $19.57, BB calls $5.65 all in

What is villain raising OTR?His line doesn`t make any sense to me. I don`t see any value hand raising OTR. 99,33,Ax should bet the F, but if he is slowplaying, he should raise at least OTT. 66 should raise T, AK reraise preflop. K9 is just calling here. What do you think?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by 2reac
Hi w34z3l , I have a very nice spot and I need to know if my thought proccess is correct.
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2734922

Hero (SB): $20.42 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3,3, Hands: 151755
BB: $10.00 - UNKNOWN
UTG: $11.07 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 23, 3B: 9, AF: 1,6, Hands: 270
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 3,3, Hands: 233
BTN: $10.93 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3,4, Hands: 494

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 8 :diamond: J :spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 9 :heart: 3 :spade: A :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($0.60) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55

River: ($1.70) K :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $19.57, BB calls $5.65 all in

What is villain raising OTR?His line doesn`t make any sense to me. I don`t see any value hand raising OTR. 99,33,Ax should bet the F, but if he is slowplaying, he should raise at least OTT. 66 should raise T, AK reraise preflop. K9 is just calling here. What do you think?

Hey 2reac,

Checking flop is fine here since don't have good potential. However after our opponent checks back it's generally fine to go for a double-barrel with our air holdings.

HOWEVER - when we get raised on the river we should just be folding every time. This is fancy-play-syndrome. Hardly anyone will raise the river light at these limits so 3betting the river as a bluff is essentially a spew.

I understand what you mean regarding him not representing too many holdings, but its actually more likely he slowplayed something badly than is bluffing on the river. He could even play 99 this way or river Kings-Up and think he has the nuts. Easy river fold vs raise.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by bonecore
I have a question and need to know if this is correct or not:
How much % of our 3bet bluff range should be polarized?
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call=50% then our bluff range is 100% polarized towards value(high equity card).
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call= 0% then our bluff range is 0% polarized towards value(high equity card).
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call=25% then our bluff range is 50% polarized towards value(high equity card).
vs Ft3bet=50% and vs_3bet_call=30% then our bluff range is 60% polarized towards value(high equity card).

If this is correct then it messes up my Cold call ranges and i will finish learning the ranges in more than 1 year or never:s_cry:

I don't really fully understand this.

Firstly our ranges will vary depending on whether we are IP or OOP. IP we can show a tendency towards merging or depolarizing our range (but not entirely in most cases, it's still good to use some of the middle of our range as flats). OOP we will tend towards polarizing.

Keep in mind that it can still be completely fine to use a polarized range vs an opponent who rarely folds to 3bets. Perhaps we can generate a decent chunk of equity postflop. So in vast majority of instances the correct solution can never be derived by purely looking at preflop tendencies as is done above.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

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IuriTPena........................... 14
Theodor95........................ 12
Livethelife7........................10
Bonecore...........................6
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2reac..................................5
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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2735109
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BB: $10.15 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 9, AF: 1,7, Hands: 3412
UTG: $5.28 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 12, AF: 3,0, Hands: 42
MP: $12.94 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2,8, Hands: 1443
CO: $2.98 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 23, 3B: 23, AF: 4,4, Hands: 43
BTN: $11.89 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 0,9, Hands: 996
Hero (SB): $10.05 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3,3, Hands: 152628

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K :club: K :heart:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.90) 5 :club: Q :heart: Q :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.30) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.35, BTN calls $2.35

River: ($9.00) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $5.60, BTN calls $5.60

Do we have a value shove OTR? How should we play?


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

Originally posted by 2reac
Do we have a value shove OTR? How should we play?

we cant go for 3 streets value


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2reac
Joined: 10.04.2014

^ So River is x/fold?


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

Originally posted by 2reac
^ So River is x/fold?

yep, i dont see him bluffin river because his AF is below 1%


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IuriTPena
Joined: 09.04.2012

Originally posted by bonecore

Originally posted by 2reac
^ So River is x/fold?

yep, i dont see him bluffin river because his AF is below 1%

AF = (bets+raises) / calls (at least in HM2)

He can have some missed FD and some PPs that decided to thin value bet river. But vs such a nitty player just x/f river imo


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