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T4s $5,10 Hyper Turbo MTT

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Styr
Joined: 11.03.2009

Should I have called here? We were 25 left out of some 960

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t6000/t12000 Blinds + t2400 - 7 players
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MP: t151070 M = 4.34
CO: t38448 M = 1.10
BTN: t284300 M = 8.17
SB: t19715 M = 0.57
Hero (BB): t63124 M = 1.81
UTG: t145970 M = 4.19
UTG+1: t221276 M = 6.36

Pre Flop: (t34800) Hero is BB with 4♠ T♠
3 folds, CO raises to t36000, 3 folds

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Final Pot: t46800
CO wins t46800


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It’s a little bit funky that the SB still folds here. I expect he has a any 2 call here.
Based on Cev you need to call 24.048 (36.048-12.000 He has 48 still remaining) to win a total pot of 94.896 (12.000+6.000+2.400*7+36.048+24.048). So you need only 25,34% equity to make a call profitable.

I think the scenario below is a good indication how wide the CO will shove and is most likely even wider:
Equity Win Draw
CO 66.04% 65.36% 0.69% { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
BB 33.96% 33.27% 0.69% { Ts4s }

So I expect you have a profitable call here with T4s.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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18071987
Joined: 02.05.2007

Originally posted by SDK1987
It’s a little bit funky that the SB still folds here. I expect he has a any 2 call here.
Based on Cev you need to call 24.048 (36.048-12.000 He has 48 still remaining) to win a total pot of 94.896 (12.000+6.000+2.400*7+36.048+24.048). So you need only 25,34% equity to make a call profitable.

I think the scenario below is a good indication how wide the CO will shove and is most likely even wider:
Equity Win Draw
CO 66.04% 65.36% 0.69% { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
BB 33.96% 33.27% 0.69% { Ts4s }

So I expect you have a profitable call here with T4s.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Hmm. If we just call I guess we don't going ALL IN pre flop s on the flop we betting 48 chips into 94.896 or it doesn't matter and we can just push here.
I will choose second option.
I am asking because from time to time I see players have 5BB and they not push but raising 4BB with 1 BB behind which form me is crazy play? Should I always just pushing this shallow or just follow math and react on the flop depend of the board and odds?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

You’re committed anyway. So I would make my decision always pre-flop if someone raised with less than 10bb and you’re last to act.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Wohmfg
Joined: 12.11.2009

Originally posted by 18071987

Originally posted by SDK1987
It’s a little bit funky that the SB still folds here. I expect he has a any 2 call here.
Based on Cev you need to call 24.048 (36.048-12.000 He has 48 still remaining) to win a total pot of 94.896 (12.000+6.000+2.400*7+36.048+24.048). So you need only 25,34% equity to make a call profitable.

I think the scenario below is a good indication how wide the CO will shove and is most likely even wider:
Equity Win Draw
CO 66.04% 65.36% 0.69% { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
BB 33.96% 33.27% 0.69% { Ts4s }

So I expect you have a profitable call here with T4s.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Hmm. If we just call I guess we don't going ALL IN pre flop s on the flop we betting 48 chips into 94.896 or it doesn't matter and we can just push here.
I will choose second option.
I am asking because from time to time I see players have 5BB and they not push but raising 4BB with 1 BB behind which form me is crazy play? Should I always just pushing this shallow or just follow math and react on the flop depend of the board and odds?

That's normally a player trying to get more fold equity or to make it harder for callers to work out pot odds. So it's usually a range at least as wide as Nash pushing range


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