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QQ vs Nit in 3bet pot

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kingreigns
Joined: 26.01.2009

My question here is should i bet the river after the turn checked through? If you would bet then what size?
This player is a mega nit 8 speed tabler

iPoker - €0.20 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): €20.00
UTG: €29.82
CO: €7.52
BTN: €48.38 (VPIP: 12.35, PFR: 8.02, 3Bet Preflop: 1.41, Hands: 164)
SB: €34.39

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.30) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

fold, fold, BTN raises to €0.40, SB calls €0.30, Hero raises to €2.00, BTN calls €1.60, fold

Flop: (€4.40, 2 players) 6♥ 8♦ A♦
Hero bets €3.00, BTN calls €3.00

Turn: (€10.40, 2 players) J♣
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (€10.40, 2 players) 3♣
Hero ??


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Hello,

on the flop I would start with check and probably call one street, definitely x/f T. As played - which hand exactly you want to get value from OTR? Or which better hand he should fold? It´s really hard for me to see any. So personally x/f since I don´t expect he will bluff his missed FD (which are maybe KQ, QJ?)

Also some more stats would be useful - RFI BTN, call vs 3bet - vs squeeze would be probably even lower.


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kingreigns
Joined: 26.01.2009

Sorry ill make sure the next hand i post that i include more stats.
RFI btn : 33%
call vs 3bet : 15%

Like he is a mega nit, funnily enough i never even considered checking the flop. Maybe i should in future vs these tight lads. I wasnt thinking about getting value OTR but i presumed he had KK since he checked since AK/AQ,AJ would bet and i was thinking a bet would get KK to fold. Maybe i'm over thinking trying to get him to fold here.

When you check/call the flop would then bet the river once the turn checked through?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

If you bet flop, make it smaller. No need to pump the pot when A is there.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

to: kingreigns
About folding KK - usually I expect him to 4bet preflop. It´s true that some people never 4bet anything but it´s not so often. Especially if he´s nit multitabler I don´t expect some tricky play from him and remove KK+ from his flop range.

When you check/call the flop would then bet the river once the turn checked through?

You mean when the turn action is check/check if I´m betting R? I´m checking R and probably x/f. We have solid SD value and if he check R we can win decent number of time. But when we bet than he probably folds everything worse and call only with better hands.

Maybe try to read some articles about playing in way ahead way behind situation. I think this is exactly that situation and it´s important to understand it.

Also on Ahigh board after we 3bet blinds vs late position, I think we should start with check very often even with hands like AK and AA (against better opponents).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like to keep the pot small ina way ahead/way behind spots. x/f river.


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