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SH Zoom 2rd pair OOP, Sqz pot vs Regular

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negritolindo0
Joined: 06.01.2010

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.98 (119.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.27 (205.4 bb)
UTG: $2.37 (47.4 bb)
MP: $5.69 (113.8 bb) 26/22 in 108 hands
CO: $2.22 (44.4 bb)
BTN: $11.33 (226.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG folds, MP calls $0.45, SB folds

Flop: ($1.40) Q 7 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.70, Hero folds

Results:

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$1.40 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: Q 7 9
Hero mucked J J and lost (-$0.60 net)
MP mucked and won $1.31 ($0.71 net)

Preflop: Squeeze after an isolate raise from regular.

Flop: make a cbet?, if i bet he folds all hands that i beat, he will call with draws or better hand. or bet for protect? I block the draws with Jx, T8 or 86 i think is not in his range.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think cbetting would be good here. As played I think we can't fold to a single bet. If we 3bet and play fit or fold we get exploited very fast.


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negritolindo0
Joined: 06.01.2010

Originally posted by la55i
I think cbetting would be good here. As played I think we can't fold to a single bet. If we 3bet and play fit or fold we get exploited very fast.

the villian seems regular and i do not expect him to call with a 9x, in fact there is no many 9x in his range, he opens raise in MP and call a sqz. I expect broadways (that hits very good in this flop), a small pocket pair (that i beat but he is not gonna call a cbet unless he has a set of course). if we bet, how do we continue in the turn? if it's a bad card just simple x/f, if it's a blank x/c, b/f? ,the problem of my line if that my hand is face up. or just x/c on the flop and then x/c to another bet?.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I wouldn't be cbetting for value, it would be to get folds. If he calls we are going to x/f. How many hands do you have on villain? Is it possible that you 3bet and fold flop a lot and he is already exploiting it? I think checking this flop is ok but we should sometimes check raise also. If we can't continue playing when there is A K or Q on the flop why do we even 3bet?


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negritolindo0
Joined: 06.01.2010

Originally posted by la55i
I wouldn't be cbetting for value, it would be to get folds. If he calls we are going to x/f. How many hands do you have on villain? Is it possible that you 3bet and fold flop a lot and he is already exploiting it? I think checking this flop is ok but we should sometimes check raise also. If we can't continue playing when there is A K or Q on the flop why do we even 3bet?

i dont have many of hands, 3bet preflop for value (JJ vs open raise range of 20% has very good equity <-- range that i give the regular) cause there is dead money and vs SB i'm IP.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The squeeze is ok.
The board on flop is hitting villain's range, so we can x/call.


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DAYETTAY
Joined: 03.10.2015

I like to bet the pot in this situation. Either he folds and you win or he calls and you know you are beat. Checking allows them to bet and you to fish.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by DAYETTAY
I like to bet the pot in this situation. Either he folds and you win or he calls and you know you are beat. Checking allows them to bet and you to fish.

Yeah and I like to push all-in preflop every time even with my 72o. Either they call and I win or they fold. Even if they call it is a 50/50, I lose or I win. Simple.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by DAYETTAY
I like to bet the pot in this situation. Either he folds and you win or he calls and you know you are beat. Checking allows them to bet and you to fish.

We do not have enough equity to bet, and we have enough equity to call a bet...
By checking, we keep his whole range in play, and believe me, we want him to stay wide here...


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DAYETTAY
Joined: 03.10.2015

Bit of an over reaction.


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