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ATo in SB, flop TPTK, raised on flop, fold?

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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

The "informational value" of certain moves never ever alone makes them worth the price tag. Only when decisions are otherwise very close, you can weigh in the value of information. This doesn't happen often. But say you are against an opponent (let's say on a dry flop) that you think need TP+ to continue versus a 80% pot continuation bet. Then it is probably best to make it that big, or slightly bigger if you c-bet at all, since you will know you are beat if she calls.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We do not need to re-raise here. We do not need to commit in order to collect info we already have.


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Shark97
Joined: 27.08.2015

:why:
Look at what i wtote ..........😯😯😯
We don't raise just for informations,
We beat #36 fu**ing combinations versus 6 ............ Understand you??
You must be a Nit.It is not a really +EV player.....for about 100 years.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by Shark97
:why:
Look at what i wtote ..........😯😯😯
We don't raise just for informations,
We beat #36 fu**ing combinations versus 6 ............ Understand you??
You must be a Nit.It is not a really +EV player.....for about 100 years.

It doesn't matter how many combinations we beat if all the ones we're ahead of fold to a 3-bet. Also, it's difficult to look at what you write since you seem to be treating the "reply" field as a complicated password entry form and including random symbols all over the shop.

Even if you didn't make the ludicrous suggestion of 3betting for information, which any reasonably competent player will tell you is a terrible strategy, you've suggested his range includes hands like middle pair which is obviously ridiculous.

I think you need to do some research on the reasons for betting and you'll see that raising for information should be discouraged. I recommend Andrew Seidman's "Easy Game".

So, in short, I did read what you wrote. That's why I've immediately dismissed your opinion because you clearly haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about, which makes your raging superiority complex all the more amusing.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Shark97
:why:
Look at what i wtote ..........😯😯😯
We don't raise just for informations,
We beat #36 fu**ing combinations versus 6 ............ Understand you??
You must be a Nit.It is not a really +EV player.....for about 100 years.

No, not a Nit. A nitrol!.
Also, be sure to finish school before you go pro. Language and spelling skills are valuable.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Originally posted by Shark97

Originally posted by CPallo
3-bet there and then we are committed with a hand that most likely is way behind. Not a good idea..

Top pair vs straight draw (#16)&flush draw (i calclulate here just with A and K high )>>(#20) ,but here might be a lot of middle/little pair too.
And the setts: 66 and 33-->(#6)
Summary: #36 vs #6
WAY BEHIND???????
I don't think so

I still think that this limp/call pre-flop, min-raise flop is rarely if ever a flush-draw. Best case scenario might be some AJ/QKs IMO, and not all fish are limping even with these hands. Sets, slow-played overpairs..


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Shark97
Joined: 27.08.2015

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by Shark97
:why:
Look at what i wtote ..........😯😯😯
We don't raise just for informations,
We beat #36 fu**ing combinations versus 6 ............ Understand you??
You must be a Nit.It is not a really +EV player.....for about 100 years.

No, not a Nit. A nitrol!.
Also, be sure to finish school before you go pro. Language and spelling skills are valuable.

OOO MY GGGOOOODDD
Nit --> or stone is a tight passive player you stu**d.(There is in glossary too) I gave it up ,IDIOTS.........uhhh....Nitrol......
😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Shark? 97? That makes you seventeen. Or is it seventeen and a half?


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Shark97
Joined: 27.08.2015

Is the truth shit about Nit "Einstein"?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‰
Yohan? N? 7 yes you are 7! ☺


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Seven and a half mind you! Don't forget about what I said about school:)


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

I don't think schooling is a major factor in this guy's life tbh.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Guys please quit this conversation, you're making me laugh :f_rolleyes:


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Shark97
Joined: 27.08.2015

A little ask.....Where are you from aboveboard????????I have an idea,but..... i don't know where live a lot of professors like "Einstein" who use the glossary all day (Nit,etc..) or for example the handsome MjPerry......?????(who studies all day too)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

No no, MJPerry doesn't study. He is my shrink (and is very ugly IRL)


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by Shark97
A little ask.....Where are you from aboveboard????????I have an idea,but..... i don't know where live a lot of professors like "Einstein" who use the glossary all day (Nit,etc..) or for example the handsome MjPerry......?????(who studies all day too)

It's weird because I know all those words individually but I have no idea what they mean when placed in that specific order.


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Shark97
Joined: 27.08.2015

You are weird handsomePerry....


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vicze1412
Joined: 24.02.2011

Guys please smoke some cigarettes ....:f_thumbsup::f_thumbsup:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by MJPerry

Originally posted by Shark97
:why:
Look at what i wtote ..........😯😯😯
We don't raise just for informations,
We beat #36 fu**ing combinations versus 6 ............ Understand you??
You must be a Nit.It is not a really +EV player.....for about 100 years.

It doesn't matter how many combinations we beat if all the ones we're ahead of fold to a 3-bet. Also, it's difficult to look at what you write since you seem to be treating the "reply" field as a complicated password entry form and including random symbols all over the shop.

Even if you didn't make the ludicrous suggestion of 3betting for information, which any reasonably competent player will tell you is a terrible strategy, you've suggested his range includes hands like middle pair which is obviously ridiculous.

I think you need to do some research on the reasons for betting and you'll see that raising for information should be discouraged. I recommend Andrew Seidman's "Easy Game".

So, in short, I did read what you wrote. That's why I've immediately dismissed your opinion because you clearly haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about, which makes your raging superiority complex all the more amusing.

Totally agree here. We do not want villain to fold most of the hands we beat.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by MJPerry
It's weird because I know all those words individually but I have no idea what they mean when placed in that specific order.

LOL priceless!
It is rather like reading the instructions for something made a 3rd-world country.
All the words make sense, but the sentences never do.

Peace,
VS


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nickycakes
Joined: 10.10.2015