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crazyguy
Joined: 22.02.2008

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $10.01 (100.1 bb) 15/10 over 42 hands.
UTG: $72.67 (726.7 bb)
MP: $12.53 (125.3 bb)
CO: $27.63 (276.3 bb) 33/19 over 36 hands.
Hero (BTN): $10.21 (102.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, SB folds, BB calls $0.70, CO calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.45) 8 J 3 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1, CO calls $1

Turn: ($5.45) A (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.45) Q (3 players)
BB bets $5.45, CO folds, Hero ???

Results:

Spoiler

$21.87 pot ($1.21 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 3 A Q
BB showed T 9 and won $20.66 ($10.65 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$1.80 net)
Hero showed Q Q and won $0.00 (-$10.01 net)

Alright I think preflop and flop is pretty standard. thought A turn was a card that would hit their range pretty hard so decided to check behind with the intention to call almost all rivers on a blank or to bet myself ip. Then my nutcard comes on the river but BB wakes up. I have no idea how to interpret the action from villain. I mostly put him on a set who wanted to c/r turn and want to get value now.


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Aerox232
Joined: 28.04.2011

2combos beat us, we can get value from 4-5combos if we shove, depend if he calling 33 preflop.
and i asume that he 4bet AA pre.

Question for me here would be are we calling or shoving


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caltabiano
Joined: 09.03.2007

Easy shove... he's got JJ more often than AA IMO, or at least the same amount of time, since he 4b AA some times. But do know that we're dead some of the times =)

Why do you bet so small on the flop btw?


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caltabiano
Joined: 09.03.2007

Holy shit, just saw his hand.... hahaha makes it an even easier shove :f_biggrin:


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zoty79
Joined: 31.03.2010

This is a easy shove vs his range. He could have the smaller sets, and most of the time i think Ax combos. People often call with Axs combos in that spot too.


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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

I agree that it's a shove OTR vs mostly JJ/AJs/AQs


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would like the shove but...pot is mw and I do not think villain will check turn with AQ, AJ...


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caltabiano
Joined: 09.03.2007

Remember that AQ didn't even get to the turn. On such a spot I'd think we're up against JJ and AA basically. Still, I don't see any other move than shoving, because AA 4b pre some of the time. Some villains could show up with AJ I guess. I think AJ could check turn


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would shove too.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by caltabiano
I think AJ could check turn

AJ is not checking vs 2!


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kisgatyas
Joined: 18.10.2009

Originally posted by crazyguy

... thought A turn was a card that would hit their range pretty hard so decided to check behind with the intention to call almost all rivers on a blank or to bet myself ip.

do you see the logical flaw here ? First you assume this card is improved their ranges a lot, then you want to call, why ?


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

I think it's quite standard to call river. So many combos that we can beat here.


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crazyguy
Joined: 22.02.2008

Originally posted by caltabiano
Easy shove... he's got JJ more often than AA IMO, or at least the same amount of time, since he 4b AA some times. But do know that we're dead some of the times =)

Why do you bet so small on the flop btw?

smallish bet on the flop is for potcontrol in a 3-bet multiway pot with only an overpair.


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crazyguy
Joined: 22.02.2008

Originally posted by CPallo
I think it's quite standard to call river. So many combos that we can beat here.

which combo do you mean. it's a 3-bet pot and a nitty villain is potbetting out of turn


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Interesting. First many say "shove", then there is a more moderate voice for "call", then there is a "fold". I am calling, expecting to lose, but not every time. Being wise after the event, the spoiler reveals the only value hand that makes some sense, except for pre-flop.

As for checking back turn with the intention of calling; this is 3-ways and people don't (shouldn't) be bluffing much.


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