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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

24/19 800h 3bet 8.6 agg 27 26 20 cbet ip rsp 35 (31) 67 (6) river cbet ip 3bet p 57 (7) 75 (4) no info river WTS 31

pre i don't have a 4bet range from UTG and MP
On Game, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $25.59 (51.2 bb)
BB: $66.85 (133.7 bb)
Hero (UTG): $59.56 (119.1 bb)
MP: $43.53 (87.1 bb)
CO: $54 (108 bb)
BTN: $50.99 (102 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($8.75) K 4 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($14.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($28.75) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14.50, Hero call or shove???


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Hi pisiattu,
If the idea is shoving the aces, the best moment to this get place is preflop.
That said... I m really puzzled about one thing. Why u dont have a 4bet range?


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

1 From UTG & MP I have little range's open and I don't need 4bet for have a good difence
2 if I am oop I want have a strong range and I don't want to be capped
3 I would however a 4bet range little and if oppo is carreful I don't maximize top range


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jules97
Joined: 10.06.2012

The aim of 4betting isn't defense. It's to get paid when you have a good hand.

Not 4betting Aces is a crime against poker, which should be punished by sitewide account bans.

As played in order of preference, I'd
- raise preflop
- raise the flop
- raise the turn
- raise the river


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

Originally posted by jules97
The aim of 4betting isn't defense. It's to get paid when you have a good hand.

From EP I open 15 and I defend 6-7, i can 4bet KK+ bluff, rarely I receive shove on face

Originally posted by jules97
Not 4betting Aces is a crime against poker, which should be punished by sitewide account bans.

boards Qxx are sick without overpair vs range strong

Originally posted by jules97
As played in order of preference, I'd
- raise preflop
- raise the flop
- raise the turn
- raise the river

in this board my raising rage is 0: I'm wawb, ok I don't have A♥:, but I blocker AK.
In this spot imho oppo mistake size on flop and river we are deep, with AK I would call only; my tp was he bets small flop, + turn + river i don't think that he is strong now, I feel ahead, but if I shove does he call with 50%+1 hand from behind?


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jules97
Joined: 10.06.2012

Not 4betting Aces is a crime against poker, which should be punished by sitewide account bans.

boards Qxx are sick without overpair vs range strong

The the thing about playing as the guy with the capped range, is it fucking sucks. However, you just have to man up and deal with it and get better at fighting for your share of the equity. You are going to lose often and be put in many uncomfortable positions, but it is going to be very, very profitable.

Doing shit like donking or in this case 'range protection' to make it easier is very, very costly. It will make your ranges easier to play. It will make it appear at first glance like you have decently unexploitable stats, but anything longer than a glance will reveal the opposite.

When you 'range protect' with premiums you are doing 2 very bad things:
- not getting value and not coolering hands that you should be for large amounts of bb. This is a HUGE part of ones winrate. This is one of the reasons BsB and crew beat up people at small stakes. They may look like retards, but they are making god damn sure that they are getting paid with value hands.

- allowing villains to realize mountains of EV
When you 4b Aces against 89s and get it to fold, you are folding 22 of his equity. This is a good result. In wider range situations this is even more important.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

you say the right things , but playing is more postflop maintains the edge and take advantage of others' mistakes


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

+999 to whatever jules said, u are bleeding money here by not doing what he suggested


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